"J. van Baardwijk" wrote:
>
> At 00:36 02-05-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
>
> >I did not say that I was being threatened personally by you. I said that
> >you are threatening list members.
>
> I do not see it as a threat. Pointing a gun at someone and saying "give me
> your wallet or I will shoot" is a threat.
<snippage>
> >I want to note that your position as listowner allows you to banish and
> >suspend listmembers.
>
> Theoretically, you are correct. However, in earlier discussion it was said
> repeatedly that nobody would be banished before discussing it with the
> entire list. No listowner would singlehandedly decide to pull the plug on
> someone's subscription.
>
> Even if one of them *would* do that, what would he or she gain from that?
> He or she would certainly suddenly find himself/herself a *former*
> listowner, and quite likely also a *former* member of this community (but
> only after discussing it with the entire list, of course).
>
> Is there any reason to believe I would singlehandedly unsubscribe someone?
> No. There is however plenty of indication that I show restraint in that
> matter. I have been attacked several times, and sometimes quite
> ferociously, by some people. However, despite the fact that I could easily
> kick them off the list (and the drop in number and scale of attacks
> certainly would make my on-line life a bit more pleasant), did I ever
> actually unsubscribe people like JDG (to name pretty much the worst
> offender)? Guess what: I did not.
<snippage>
> >By pointing out to someone that they can be banished for misbehavior
> >directed at you, you strongly imply that you are the one who will do so.
>
> My earlier statements as well as the abovementioned earlier discussion
> contradict this.
Jeroen has made arguments to this effect before, and apparently it
hasn't convinced everyone. In other words, people don't believe him.
My conclusion, and I may be wrong, is that some folks don't trust
Jeroen.
If I am right, can anyone who doesn't trust Jeroen attempt some sort of
explanation as to why this is? Or at the very least, confirm their
distrust of Jeroen?
Is there anything Jeroen can do to earn back the trust of anyone who
does not now trust him?
If I'm wrong on the trust issue, why is it that Jeroen's assurances
don't seem to be convincing some folks?
Julia
