At 08:33 19-05-2002 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote:

><<You misunderstood me. I said nothing about changing Palestinians'
>attitude towards Israel, I was saying that you can not change someone's
>overall behaviour by giving that someone custody over a piece of land.
>You can only get someone to change his mind by offering convincing
>arguments, not by giving him property.>>
>
>Ilana
>Temple Mount is not "property" it's "holly place". <SHRUG> You are
>saying that even if Palestinians will get all the land that they want,
>their attitude to Israel will not change, unless we will smile while
>jumping into the see. I am saying - I am glad you understand that.

<sigh>

No, I am saying that you can not change someone's attitude by giving them 
something -- period. I am not saying that "Palestinians will not change 
their attitude unless all Jews jump into the sea". Likewise, you (Ilana) 
cannot change my attitude towards Israel by giving me something; for 
example, you could give me a piece of land and a nice big house in the most 
beautiful part of Israel, but that would not change my opinion about 
Israel's policy towards the Palestinians.


>Jeroen<sarcasm>
>Hm, here is an other quite effective solution: blanket bomb every town
>and city in the Occupied Territories. Not all at once, because Israel
>probably does not have enough bomber planes for that, but just one at a
>time. Israel can continue to use its standard excuse about that town or
>city being a terrorist base. The world will be outraged of course, but
>that has happened before and I have yet to see Israel being concerned
>about what the rest of the world thinks.
>Harsh approach, but the most effective way to get rid of your
>"Palestinian problem" is by getting rid of the Palestinians.
></sarcasm>>>
>
>Ilana
>This solution sounds smart to me, but even after *this* intifada, there
>is still no majority for it.

No I am really worried. If I make a sarcastic remark about blanket-bombing 
Palestinian towns and people start seeing it as a good idea, the Middle 
East really is in trouble.


Jeroen

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