----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: No conflicts between selfishness and morality?


> Jan Coffey wrote:
> > --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>Isn't this just an example of _enlightened_ self interest?  Certainly
> >>the guy could have saved his ass and gotten out right away, but as the
> >>result of a little risk taking, he has raised his stature in the
community.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Do you really think that is what he was thinking at the time? Just
becouse
> > that ~could have been~ his motivation doesn't mean that we can make any
> > argumenats based on that possiblity in support of "enlightened self
intrest".
>
> Our culture glorifies heroism, does it not?  It's been ingrained upon us
> from the time we are small children that to sacrifice one's own short
> term self interest for the good of a larger group - especially helpless
> individuals - is a good thing and will generally be rewarded.

You are seriously arguing that "I'm going to be on TV if this looks good,
so I'll risk death" is a more likely motive than "My God, those people will
die if I don't do something, I better act."    I know, Gautam risked his
life to save another...do you want to ask him if it was a bid for glory?


Dan M.


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