On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 08:27 pm, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
But, Kevin, as I've said several times, I don't think he's the best ever pitcher, except on a game-for-game basis. If I had to pick a pitcher to win _one game_, I'd pick him - more specifically, the 1999 version of him. If I had to pick a pitcher as "greatest pitcher ever" - that is, the pitcher who, over his career, contributed the most to the various teams for which he played - it's probably Tom Seaver, counting only pitchers after the Second World War (again, I think it's impossible to compare to pitchers before the Second World War. Walter Johnson never threw anything but a fastball and probably only rarely even 100 pitches in a game. Doesn't make him less than great, it just makes him completely impossible to judge against modern pitchers). But in this case, I don't think I'm actually making a modern's bias argument. Adjusted for era, Pedro's numbers at his peak are just flat-out better. A modern's bias would be if the two were roughly equal, and I was saying _that_ showed that Pedro was better. But that is not, in fact, my argument.
Using mere facts and logical argument is never going to get you anywhere in the face of faith Gautam :)
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