Kangaroo, It is again that you don't see the value of Paris Peace Agreement in October 23, 1991. You see only the divisive period of Lon Nol, Pol Pot and Vietnam occupation. I have no political party reference. I am not going to protect SRP or CPP. Any party that has conducted bad behavior, I will criticize them in the way that can endorse goodness for innocent Cambodian people.
Of course, you are manipulative and stead head clinging to love and die for CPP. I understand your political tendency. I don't blame on your political inclination, but I really want you to see both sides of coin and act in a very productive way. SRP cannot be labeled as Sam Rainsy. Historically, Sam Rainsy was a member of Khmer factions to deliberate Khmer from foreign occupation. Do you see that those Khmer factions struggled along the Thailand border have created Khmer division or they have created power balance in Cambodia? And importantly Vietnamese troops, physically, had to withdraw from Cambodia? Or do you see that it is still the master head of division? Does CPP also one of the faction who played important role in division too? Use your own conscience not to link personal Sam Rainsy to SRP because it might not give you any credit for your own sake and good debate with me. However, do you see that the fighting between different Khmer fractions can enable Khmer to have unity and can force foreign invader withdrawing from Cambodia or it caused division among Cambodia? Who lost who benefited? With this mater, Paris Peace Agreement has been signed. New page of Khmer history has been rewritten. From intractable division among Khmer factions, Paris Peace Agreement enables unity among Khmers as well as the dignity and legality of Khmer in the international arena. This day surely creates the unity among division of different Khmer factions. It is better than the day of January 7, 1979 or March 18, 1970. International monitors stated that recent Cambodia election is peaceful and non-violent than before. They didn't recognize the election procedures controlled by current NEC is fair and smooth. You need to check the information again. However, as I am a Khmer, a voter, I am very disappointing that "check and balance" of democratic principle in Cambodia has been eliminated. I am disappointing that, as a Khmer, both CPP and SRP have not got the realistic numbers of vote through a free and fair election. NEC has deceived both of them. In reality, CPP has deceived Cambodian people because only 3 millions voted for them (if I agree with the outcome). CPP cannot win a real major vote (this do need to compare with US because it is very very different especially the NEC). There are still many irregularities in Cambodian election, that the powerful CPP has projected to manipulate and deceive the Cambodian people and the international countries. In your opinion, do you want to eliminate opposition party and Cambodia should be led by CPP lonely? Or what? KY On Mar 22, 9:33 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mar 20, 6:18 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Kangaroo, > > > SRP is the main cause of Khmer division? As I know SRP was created in > > 1998. After 1998, are there any outstanding division among Cambodian > > people? Please, give me all those events. And also give me the > > evidence that Sam Rainsy called Hun Sen Vietnamese. Thank you for your > > corporation. > > Please read your above paragraph carefully. I don't think that is what > you are trying to say. > First of Sam Rainsy is not the only one who is practicing division in > Cambodia. > Look at the civil war in the last five decades. You should see one > Cambodian faction fights the other for their own rightiousness. Sam > Rainsy is one of them. > Cambodian society has been accommodating this kind of practice for a > very long time. They even went so far to get other countries to help > them fight their own people in their own country. Then they blame on > Vietnam. > You just can't stop using Hun Sen and CPP to justify your cause. If > you continue to think that it's ok for Sam Rainsy or others to do as > long as CPP is doing bad thing, STOP HERE. YOU DON'T NEED TO LOOK ANY > FURTHER. You are just one of those who only think about dividing > Cambodia. There are many rights and wrongs on earth. There are goods > and bads in any political parties. It's not how good one is to make a > country better. IT IS HOW ONE CAN GET IT ALL TO WORK TOGETHER FOR > DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. Sam Rainsy is not one of them. > > > But in reality, CPP has good stand to marginalize others who sharply > > criticize their bad behavior. Not only SRP party as a political party > > has been labeled as the divisive one in Khmer society, civil societies > > have also accused like this, and individual Cambodians have also been > > accused of creating division in Cambodian society when they criticize > > the government. CPP government has paid less attention to the positive > > points of criticism. CPP's strategies are targeting everyone like > > enemies when they talk bad about their activities (is this like KR or > > not?). But not all CPP's members are like this. Only few of them > > including Kangaroo in this forum as well who label others as enemy > > when they criticize them. > > Let us assume that CPP is so bad for the moment. > Why are Cambodians embrassing them? > Why did they vote for them in the last election, which international > monitors made it as the best election Cambodians had ever held? > Why did they reject Sam Rainsy if they loved him so much? > > > However, my main debate is not about division, and also it is not > > about the election has been internationally recognized or not? > > Standard or not standard? > > Your debate is about blaming CPP. No election will satisfy you as long > as the person you like is not in there. > That's the fact. > The international monitors had classified the last election as the > Cambodian best in a long time. > Now, do you want it to be like the ones we have in America? > Oh! If you do, keep dreaming. > > > My main debate is about the outcome of 2008 national election. Only > > 53% of all valid votes 6 millions people that CPP got, but what can > > lift CPP up to get almost 90% of parliament seats? CPP got 90 seats > > among 123 seats through 53% of the valid votes????? What is this? What > > is this? What is this? > > The outcome of the last electoin was that the people of Cambodia > rejected Sam Rainsy whether it was fair or not. > You said it yourself. ONLY 53% of votes went to CPP. Do you see it as > above 50%? > On the other hands, one must look at its individual vote of areas. > Cambodians overwhemingly rejected Sam Rainsy. They voted mostly to CPP > candidate to represent their voice in Phnom Penh. > Why dind't they vote more for Sam Rainsy? > He could not even retain what he had before. Today, Cambodians > rejected him openly due to his division. > Cambodians don't need anymore division for their society. They showed > it clearly in that election. > > > NEC and CPP can freak all the procedures of national election, but NEC > > and CPP cannot freak the outcome of the election at all. This outcome > > shows us that neither CPP nor SRP can get the realistic seats from > > this election. These two parties are overwhelmingly deceived by the > > NEC. > > No matter how you look at it. CPP has the most representative in the > senate and congress. > Hence, they will vote mostly for their party agenda. That's the way it > works. > CPP doesn't have to cater any of their opposition. That's exactly what > they are doing. > That's why Sam Rainsy is so down right now. > > > So, do you get the point Kangaroo? What else you want blow out more > > now? > > And now did you get the point? > > > KY --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
