Kangaroo, SRP is the main cause of Khmer division? As I know SRP was created in 1998. After 1998, are there any outstanding division among Cambodian people? Please, give me all those events. And also give me the evidence that Sam Rainsy called Hun Sen Vietnamese. Thank you for your corporation.
But in reality, CPP has good stand to marginalize others who sharply criticize their bad behavior. Not only SRP party as a political party has been labeled as the divisive one in Khmer society, civil societies have also accused like this, and individual Cambodians have also been accused of creating division in Cambodian society when they criticize the government. CPP government has paid less attention to the positive points of criticism. CPP's strategies are targeting everyone like enemies when they talk bad about their activities (is this like KR or not?). But not all CPP's members are like this. Only few of them including Kangaroo in this forum as well who label others as enemy when they criticize them. However, my main debate is not about division, and also it is not about the election has been internationally recognized or not? Standard or not standard? My main debate is about the outcome of 2008 national election. Only 53% of all valid votes 6 millions people that CPP got, but what can lift CPP up to get almost 90% of parliament seats? CPP got 90 seats among 123 seats through 53% of the valid votes????? What is this? What is this? What is this? NEC and CPP can freak all the procedures of national election, but NEC and CPP cannot freak the outcome of the election at all. This outcome shows us that neither CPP nor SRP can get the realistic seats from this election. These two parties are overwhelmingly deceived by the NEC. So, do you get the point Kangaroo? What else you want blow out more now? KY On Mar 20, 9:19 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > It looks like you really can't read English well enough to > unerderstand. > The international montors have given the last election as the best > election Cambodians have ever held since the war. And they rejected > Sam Rainsy and his party clearly. Before there were people still > thought how good Sam Rainsy was. Now, they fully understand that Sam > Rainsy and his party are nothing but division. They are trying to > divide Cambodia as their predecessors had done in the past. That's why > Cambodians have been fighting each others for a very long time. Then > they put the blame on Vietnamese, USA ETC......... What kind of people > are they? Are they intelligent enough to destroy their own country and > kill their own people? > That's right. Cambodians are famous on that. They have made the world > worse history in genocide on their own people. Sam Rainsy and his > party want to bring Cambodia through the same path. They want to > divide Cambodia into pieces. They went so far to label their own > people in leadership like Hun Sen as Vietnamese. They know full well > that those people are Cambodians. Why can't he deal with his people? > Ofcourse, SAM RAINSY AND HIS PARTY WANT THE POWER TO THEMSELVES. They > don't want any cooperation. They want division. > SAM RAINSY AND HIS PARTY ARE THE DIVISION. > > On Mar 19, 11:07 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't understand what you want to say Kangaroo? Do you respond to me > > or to Baury? It seems you are so manipulative. > > > And about CPP's election victory, have you read the below article? > > > Last time in 2nd Episode I described "the statement of Cambodia Prime > > Minister to discard the National Congress from National Constitution, > > his fearful political rhetoric to jeopardize the people, and the use > > of major parliamentary to lift opposition immunity without conscience" > > are the sign of leader's inability to protect the constitution, to > > provide rubric for bottom-line people, and lacking of check and > > balance of power...which all these showcase the characteristic of > > "weak state" that "strongman" is perpetuating to consolidate his > > power. > > > CPP is leading major voice in the assembly but this party is not > > relevant to the amount of valid votes. CPP is leading the major voice > > in the assembly but this party is far away from all vote registrants > > of 8 millions. CPP is leading the major voice in the assembly but this > > party is very very far way from the total Cambodian population (14 > > millions). > > > This time I will concentrate on the "Cambodia Election" has been used > > as the mean to legitimize personal power. And this practice is showing > > Cambodia as one of the weak states lacking willingness to implement > > "the rule of law". Major Cambodian people might see the victory of CPP > > in recent national election (27 July 2008) as their proud victory, but > > observers and academic analysts see this election as a game of "power > > legitimacy". There are numerous complaints made by Opposition Parties > > about the unequal media distribution, ballot irregularities, vote > > buying, intimidation, bias National Election Committee (NEC), and > > other disenfranchisement etc. But all these might not be relevant like > > "the very low participation of the voters". > > > When we are looking at the numbers of vote registrants, we satisfy > > with that. There were about 8 million registrants or around 60 percent > > (8/14 millions). But when we look at the actual valid vote number, > > there are around 6 millions cast their ballots (or 6,010,277 total > > valid votes). So we can say that 2 millions skeptically lost their > > chance to cast the ballot. But when we look at the vote numbers > > casting for CPP, there are around 3 millions (3,492,374 votes). This > > number is not significant for CPP to receive major seats in the > > assembly at all. However, CPP is taking absolute major voice in the > > parliament. This party is holding 90 seats among all 123 seats. > > > This 90 seats don't correctly reflect the 5.4 percent votes cast for > > CPP at all. CPP is leading major voice in the assembly but this party > > is not relevant to the amount of valid votes. CPP is leading the major > > voice in the assembly but this party is far away from all vote > > registrants of 8 millions. CPP is leading the major voice in the > > assembly but this party is very very far way from the total Cambodian > > population (14 millions). This election figure tells us the myth of > > political legimacy gained by the CPP in Cambodia. Comparing 3.4 > > million voted for CPP with 14 millions of total population surely > > informs us the "weakness" of Cambodia nation. It is weak because the > > 90 seats of major voice really doesn't reflect the support of > > Cambodians. CPP is lacking support from Cambodian people, but why > > opposition party cannot step into this situation? This also shows the > > "weakness" of Cambodia nation. Opposition needs to warm up themselves > > a little bit. CPP is not truly leading opposition party in a strong > > manner, but in a weak manner and manipulation. > > > In conclusion, CPP is proud of its victory over election just for > > their own power and interest. But CPP's winning of electiion truly > > informs us the "The Strongman in a Weak State". > > > KY > > > On Mar 19, 4:45 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It looks like Khmer Young can't back up what he claimed. > > > Perhaps, he doesn't really know what he is saying. > > > Perhaps, he is bing hit on the spot. > > > Perhaps, he is just a typical Cambodians who behave this way. > > > > On Mar 18, 2:13 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Kangaroo, > > > > > I know your responding is not different from government's spokesman. > > > > It is just the responding from a character of Khmer Rouge leaders. > > > > Once Pol Pot boasted that Cambodia will not listen to anyone, they > > > > developed their own mastery and supremacy. Now your responding to my > > > > thought is like that. But yours is more dangerous than Pol Pot's > > > > because Pol Pot responded to their group of leaders only, but yours or > > > > the CPP's will use Cambodian people as their tool. Everything good or > > > > bad they will blame the Cambodian people. Through the election, how > > > > Cambodian people trusted CPP, read below essay: > > > > --------------------------- > > > > Monday, March 9, 2009 > > > > Election for Power Legitimacy in Cambodia: 3rd Episode "A Strongman in > > > > a Weak State" > > > > Last time in 2nd Episode I described "the statement of Cambodia Prime > > > > Minister to discard the National Congress from National Constitution, > > > > his fearful political rhetoric to jeopardize the people, and the use > > > > of major parliamentary to lift opposition immunity without conscience" > > > > are the sign of leader's inability to protect the constitution, to > > > > provide rubric for bottom-line people, and lacking of check and > > > > balance of power...which all these showcase the characteristic of > > > > "weak state" that "strongman" is perpetuating to consolidate his > > > > power. > > > > > CPP is leading major voice in the assembly but this party is not > > > > relevant to the amount of valid votes. CPP is leading the major voice > > > > in the assembly but this party is far away from all vote registrants > > > > of 8 millions. CPP is leading the major voice in the assembly but this > > > > party is very very far way from the total Cambodian population (14 > > > > millions). > > > > > This time I will concentrate on the "Cambodia Election" has been used > > > > as the mean to legitimize personal power. And this practice is showing > > > > Cambodia as one of the weak states lacking willingness to implement > > > > "the rule of law". Major Cambodian people might see the victory of CPP > > > > in recent national election (27 July 2008) as their proud victory, but > > > > observers and academic analysts see this election as a game of "power > > > > legitimacy". There are numerous complaints made by Opposition Parties > > > > about the unequal media distribution, ballot irregularities, vote > > > > buying, intimidation, bias National Election Committee (NEC), and > > > > other disenfranchisement etc. But all these might not be relevant like > > > > "the very low participation of the voters". > > > > > When we are looking at the numbers of vote registrants, we satisfy > > > > with that. There were about 8 million registrants or around 60 percent > > > > (8/14 millions). But when we look at the actual valid vote number, > > > > there are around 6 millions cast their ballots (or 6,010,277 total > > > > valid votes). So we can say that 2 millions skeptically lost their > > > > chance to cast the ballot. But when we look at the vote numbers > > > > casting for CPP, there are around 3 millions (3,492,374 votes). This > > > > number is not significant for CPP to receive major seats in the > > > > assembly at all. However, CPP is taking absolute major voice in the > > > > parliament. This party is holding 90 seats among all 123 seats. > > > > > This 90 seats don't correctly reflect the 5.4 percent votes cast for > > > > CPP at all. CPP is leading major voice in the assembly but this party > > > > is not relevant to the amount of valid votes. CPP is leading the major > > > > voice in the assembly but this party is far away from all vote > > > > registrants of 8 millions. CPP is leading the major voice in the > > > > assembly but this party is very very far way from the total Cambodian > > > > population (14 millions). This election figure tells us the myth of > > > > political legimacy gained by the CPP in Cambodia. Comparing 3.4 > > > > million voted for CPP with 14 millions of total population surely > > > > informs us the "weakness" of Cambodia nation. It is weak because the > > > > 90 seats of major voice really doesn't reflect the support of > > > > Cambodians. 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