If people want to bring food to the monk, good for them. Don't tell those people that they have to respect that monk. They can feel or do anything they want.
On Jan 24, 10:04 am, Chon Chumleas <[email protected]> wrote: > Suggested mankhood test: > > If during that time, many Cambodian-Americans living in Hawaii took > turn to bring > food and pacchai boun (four necessities) to offer to him, then he was > a monk. > > If the first statement is true then the second one must be true and if > your second statement is false then the first one must be false. > > On Jan 24, 8:26 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Are you saying that it is okay for a monk to live in a dorm? Glad our > > monks at our temple didn't use to live in a dorm before when they were > > in school. > > > Are you christian? If so, I understand. I rest my case. > > > ~ Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:31 PM, rattanakiri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The international student housing is like similar to apartment. > > > everyone has her or his own room. How can you criticize someone > > > whom you do not even know their circumstances. because he said > > > something you do not like. grow up, dude. Are you gonna go their > > > build a house just him to live? You know how expensive housing is > > > in Hawaii? > > > > thisbugone wrote: > > >> Off campus housing is not the same as the dorm. What kind of pills > > >> are you taking while writing the email below? If one chose to be a > > >> monk one must follows by its religion. > > >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM, rattanakiri <[email protected] > > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> I went to college once. I know these co-ed international student > > >> dorms are like an apartment building. Everyone has his or her own > > >> room. This is far from what you have implied. Even if he decided > > >> to live off campus, it is the same setting. Each apartment complex > > >> is going to females and males residence. Where do you think he > > >> should stay? Freshmen dorm? > > > >> Heng Sombat wrote: > > > >> Hey Rattankiri, > > > >> You miss the whole picture here. Monks are subjected to be a > > >> pure person > > >> that we all respect and trust during his period of serving his > > >> monkship > > >> regardless young or old. If you claim that it is fine for a > > >> monk to live in > > >> the same dorm with female(s), I must say that you have lost > > >> track and you do > > >> not have any believes in Buddhism. Or you are pretending to > > >> be Buddhism. Or > > >> you are an idiot just like what "thisbugone" said. Please > > >> check with your > > >> parents about Buddhism before you response. > > > >> Sombat > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [email protected] > > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> [mailto:[email protected] > > >> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf > > >> Of thisbugone > > >> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:23 AM > > >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > > >> Monk and women can stay together lol. You must be an idiot! > > > >> On Saturday, January 16, 2010, rattanakiri > > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> Some people may not realize it but speak ill of someone > > >> including making a > > > >> harsh and quick judgement unfairly on someone is unbecoming a > > >> buddisht. Remember, Buddha teaching speak rightly only. > > > >> In a poor country like Cambodia, monastery life is a way > > >> out of poverty > > > >> and a chance for a proper education. In fact, many celebrated > > >> Khmer leaders > > >> and scholars owed their career to their days in as a monk. I > > >> think not any > > >> Cambodians would be shocked if a monk rejoins his civilian > > >> life. Cambodian > > >> buddhists offer money, food to monks in order to receive good > > >> karma, > > >> blessing. Should the monks refund the money, foods back if he > > >> returns to > > >> civilian life. Would you expect the monk perform a return of > > >> good karma, > > >> blessing back to heaven from those people? Give me a break. > > > >> Savouth Chea wrote: > > > >> Aloha, > > > >> As a resident of Hawaii, which Sophan Seng claims he > > >> represents, I wanted > > > >> to share my observations, thoughts, and also questions about > > >> his motives. > > >> Unfortunately, I didn't like what I saw of him, and I only > > >> foresee further > > >> disruption. > > > >> Sophan Seng came to Hawaii to further his education back > > >> in 2006. The > > > >> first time he set foot in Hawaii, I introduced him to some > > >> Cambodian > > >> community members since he was a Khmer new to the island. > > >> Some knew his > > >> background from the past and had their opinions (good but > > >> mostly bad), but I > > >> tried not to take people's word for it. As months progressed, > > >> however, I > > >> came to see that the warnings I had heard were true. First, > > >> he used the > > >> Buddhist religion to advance himself rather than becoming a > > >> monk selflessly > > >> in dedication to Buddha. How do I know this? While > > >> attending the > > >> University of Hawaii, he lived in a co-educational dormitory. > > >> One may think > > >> this is not a big deal nowadays, but should a monk put himself > > >> in the > > >> company and living quarters of females? Is this appropriate? > > >> He often > > >> flirted with young female members of our community and made > > >> inappropriate > > >> comments - causing some of our youth and their parents to > > >> become very upset! > > >> He was affiliated with a so-called ‘temple’ in Hawaii, > > >> and > > >> performed > > >> Buddhist ceremonies. That was reasonable because he was a > > >> monk, right? But > > >> in 2009, he visited Cambodia from Hawaii, ostensibly still a > > >> monk, but came > > >> back to the United States only a couple of months later with a > > >> wife! Prior > > >> to his trip back to Cambodia, he told members of the community > > >> in Hawaii > > >> that he was going there to represent and gain support for the > > >> temple and the > > >> Buddhist religion. The ‘temple committee’ gave him $400, > > >> and some > > >> individual people also gave him money, since he was a monk > > >> and/or student. > > >> Poor him, right? When he came back with a wife, people were > > >> shocked. Did > > >> he care? Apparently not. He did not attempt to explain > > >> himself nor > > >> apologize for using the monies to go back to Cambodia to get > > >> married. No, > > >> he used religion for personal gain. Sad but true. > > > >> To people that do not know him, Sophan Seng represents > > >> himself as a > > > >> ‘community facilitator.’ To be a facilitator, ideally > > >> one has > > >> to be > > >> neutral, or at least try to maintain neutrality. Instead, he > > >> openly > > >> expresses his opinion about Cambodian politics. In fact, even > > >> as a monk, > > >> whose studies are supposed to focus on learning and > > >> internalizing Buddhist > > >> principles and the path to peace, he chose to pursue a degree > > >> in /political > > >> science/. Most if not all of the articles he has written to > > >> the Phnom Penh > > >> Post (PPP) discuss politics. At the close of each of his > > >> articles, he > > >> signed "Sophan Seng, University Hawaii at Manoa, United > > >> States," or > > >> "Cambodian Students of Aloha" (the University's student > > >> organization). This might indicate that his opinions echo > > >> those of other Khmer at the > > >> University of Hawaii. They do not. Again, he is not > > >> representing the > > >> university, Khmer in Hawaii, or the United States of America. > > >> He used these > > >> closures to make himself look good with outside parties. Not > > >> all Khmer in > > >> Hawaii (or elsewhere in the United States) agree with him. > > > >> In his previous correspondence, Sophan stated, “If you > > >> want to know me > > > >> more, go to these links.” The links he provided, > > >> http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html > > >> <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Ecsaloha/officers.html> > > >> <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Ecsaloha/officers.html> and > > >> http://www2.hawaii.edu/~sophan/ > > >> <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Esophan/> > > >> <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Esophan/>, are > > >> links that were self-created -- using the university- related > > >> resources > > >> (originally created for the use of the student group as a > > >> whole) for > > >> personal gain, again. Was the information he put on the site > > >> approved by > > >> the majority of the students > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
