THIS IS THE MAN Gen. Van Tien Dung WHO led an invasion of CAMBODIA on DECEMBER 25 ,1978. Gen. Van Tien Dung, launched an invasion of Cambodia. Dec. 25, 1978 Invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS troops, under the direction of Gen. Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of Cambodia. IT WAS CONDEMNED BY THE UNITED NATIONS. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese troops.
AS THE RESULTS OF VIETNAM INVASION & OCCUPATION BY THE TROOPS OF GENERAL VAN TIEN DUNG THAT INVADED CAMBODIA ON 25 DECEMBER 1978. AS THE RESULTS ? Hà Nội 100 Left to right: Heng Samrin, Chea Sim and Hung Sen (Photo: Sovannara, RFI) IT WAS CONDEMNED BY THE UNITED NATIONS. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese troops from Cambodia. > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:55:23 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > I went to college once. I know these co-ed international student dorms > are like an apartment building. Everyone has his or her own room. This > is far from what you have implied. Even if he decided to live off > campus, it is the same setting. Each apartment complex is going to > females and males residence. Where do you think he should stay? Freshmen > dorm? > Heng Sombat wrote: > > Hey Rattankiri, > > > > You miss the whole picture here. Monks are subjected to be a pure person > > that we all respect and trust during his period of serving his monkship > > regardless young or old. If you claim that it is fine for a monk to live in > > the same dorm with female(s), I must say that you have lost track and you do > > not have any believes in Buddhism. Or you are pretending to be Buddhism. Or > > you are an idiot just like what "thisbugone" said. Please check with your > > parents about Buddhism before you response. > > > > Sombat > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of thisbugone > > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:23 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > > > Monk and women can stay together lol. You must be an idiot! > > > > On Saturday, January 16, 2010, rattanakiri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Some people may not realize it but speak ill of someone including making a > >> > > harsh and quick judgement unfairly on someone is unbecoming a buddisht. > > Remember, Buddha teaching speak rightly only. > > > >> In a poor country like Cambodia, monastery life is a way out of poverty > >> > > and a chance for a proper education. In fact, many celebrated Khmer leaders > > and scholars owed their career to their days in as a monk. I think not any > > Cambodians would be shocked if a monk rejoins his civilian life. Cambodian > > buddhists offer money, food to monks in order to receive good karma, > > blessing. Should the monks refund the money, foods back if he returns to > > civilian life. Would you expect the monk perform a return of good karma, > > blessing back to heaven from those people? Give me a break. > > > >> Savouth Chea wrote: > >> > >> > >> Aloha, > >> > >> As a resident of Hawaii, which Sophan Seng claims he represents, I wanted > >> > > to share my observations, thoughts, and also questions about his motives. > > Unfortunately, I didn't like what I saw of him, and I only foresee further > > disruption. > > > >> Sophan Seng came to Hawaii to further his education back in 2006. The > >> > > first time he set foot in Hawaii, I introduced him to some Cambodian > > community members since he was a Khmer new to the island. Some knew his > > background from the past and had their opinions (good but mostly bad), but I > > tried not to take people's word for it. As months progressed, however, I > > came to see that the warnings I had heard were true. First, he used the > > Buddhist religion to advance himself rather than becoming a monk selflessly > > in dedication to Buddha. How do I know this? While attending the > > University of Hawaii, he lived in a co-educational dormitory. One may think > > this is not a big deal nowadays, but should a monk put himself in the > > company and living quarters of females? Is this appropriate? He often > > flirted with young female members of our community and made inappropriate > > comments - causing some of our youth and their parents to become very upset! > > He was affiliated with a so-called ‘temple’ in Hawaii, and performed > > Buddhist ceremonies. That was reasonable because he was a monk, right? But > > in 2009, he visited Cambodia from Hawaii, ostensibly still a monk, but came > > back to the United States only a couple of months later with a wife! Prior > > to his trip back to Cambodia, he told members of the community in Hawaii > > that he was going there to represent and gain support for the temple and the > > Buddhist religion. The ‘temple committee’ gave him $400, and some > > individual people also gave him money, since he was a monk and/or student. > > Poor him, right? When he came back with a wife, people were shocked. Did > > he care? Apparently not. He did not attempt to explain himself nor > > apologize for using the monies to go back to Cambodia to get married. No, > > he used religion for personal gain. Sad but true. > > > >> To people that do not know him, Sophan Seng represents himself as a > >> > > ‘community facilitator.’ To be a facilitator, ideally one has to be > > neutral, or at least try to maintain neutrality. Instead, he openly > > expresses his opinion about Cambodian politics. In fact, even as a monk, > > whose studies are supposed to focus on learning and internalizing Buddhist > > principles and the path to peace, he chose to pursue a degree in /political > > science/. Most if not all of the articles he has written to the Phnom Penh > > Post (PPP) discuss politics. At the close of each of his articles, he > > signed "Sophan Seng, University Hawaii at Manoa, United States," or > > "Cambodian Students of Aloha" (the University's student organization). > > This might indicate that his opinions echo those of other Khmer at the > > University of Hawaii. They do not. Again, he is not representing the > > university, Khmer in Hawaii, or the United States of America. He used these > > closures to make himself look good with outside parties. Not all Khmer in > > Hawaii (or elsewhere in the United States) agree with him. > > > >> In his previous correspondence, Sophan stated, “If you want to know me > >> > > more, go to these links.” The links he provided, > > http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html > > <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Ecsaloha/officers.html> and > > http://www2.hawaii.edu/~sophan/ <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Esophan/>, are > > links that were self-created -- using the university- related resources > > (originally created for the use of the student group as a whole) for > > personal gain, again. Was the information he put on the site approved by > > the majority of the students in the organization? Has anyone else > > affiliated with the CSAloha used this site for personal boasting? No. Not > > even the founders, myself or Mr. Chanthoeun To, ever considered using this > > site to toot our own horns. The purpose of CSAloha, ‘…does not represent > > any political or religious ideologies both on/off campus.’ Yet he used the > > university-based name/group to send articles about politics to PPP and other > > media. Like Mr. Heng Sombat mentioned in his email, ‘He just wanted his > > name to be read in Phnom Penh Post.’ > > > >> Most of the articles he wrote to the PPP from Hawaii attacked the current > >> > > Cambodian government and sided with opposition political parties. Hmmm . . > > . Sophan, when you were in Cambodia, did you write any articles to the PPP? > > Or did you simply enjoy yourself there and then come back to the safety of > > the U.S. to criticize Cambodia? Why attack the government of your own > > country? Do you just use your country for personal gain as well? Samdech > > Hun Sen has been a Prime Minister for years. He lives in Cambodia most of > > his life, unlike Mr. Sam Rainsy. When problems arise in the country, > > Samdech Hun Sen is still there. How about Mr. Sam Rainsy? He leaves the > > country when problems come up. Then, his students and his followers pay > > the price since they can’t leave the country like him. Now, I am not > > affiliated with any political party in Cambodia. I am simply noting that > > you only support a given official or bureaucrat when it suits you. Perhaps > > it is easier to get an American scholarship if you are attacking a socialist > > country leader rather than supporting him? Sophan, why try to divide the > > country instead of uniting it? Are you using your Canadian and US bases to > > get asylum to live abroad permanently?? > > > >> Your articles to the PPP do not help the current issues in Cambodia; > >> > > instead, you are dividing the government and her people. Before you decide > > to sound off your opinion again, you should take a look at yourself in the > > mirror again and think about whether you are helping Cambodia with your > > words and actions, or, by pretending to be some sort of expert from the > > safety of your current North American address, making things worse for the > > people of our motherland. > > > >> Savouth Chea > >> > >> Honolulu, Hawaii > >> > >> > >> -----Message d'origine----- > >> De : [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> [mailto:[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>] De la part > >> de Heng Sombat > >> Envoyé : samedi 9 janvier 2010 21:08 > >> À : [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Objet : RE: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > >> > >> Sophan, > >> > >> The CSALOHA website is very outdated > >> (http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html > >> <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Ecsaloha/officers.html>). I do not > >> think any of the > >> information on the site are correct. You need to update it or take > >> the site > >> down. False information via internet or posted on the internet is > >> also a > >> crime. > >> > >> Per my information with the East West Center, you are no longer a > >> student > >> there. Plus you have sent many articles about Cambodian-Canadian's > >> activities which only proof that you are currently residing in Canada. > >> > >> There is not much to read into your article. Your intention is > >> not to help > >> Cambodia or her people. Question: Have you even hold a job that > >> produced > >> normal income and paid income-tax since you live here, US or > >> Canada? If > >> not, you have no idea what is democracy is. So please do not preach > >> democracy to others. From your resume, you have been a > >> professional student > >> and monk most of your adult life. > >> > >> Per my conversation with my friend Sok in Hawaii, your short term > >> in Hawaii > >> during your monk hood was fulfill with sins. Let me relate (one > >> issue) to > >> you and to our audience that wish to know more about you, since > >> you wanted > >> others to know about you as well. Correct me if my information is > >> incorrect, but I have no doubt about what I am about to share. > >> > >> During your study at University of Hawaii you were living in a co-ed > >> University housing that was provided by East West Center (funded > >> by American > >> tax payers). This mean that you were sharing your domicile with young > >> college girls. This alone violated Buddhism practice already. > >> Most of the > >> young girls in these days covered their body with less and less > >> garments, > >> especially when they are in their domiciles. I will stop here on > >> this issue > >> and let you and the audience of CAMDIS takes it from here. > >> > >> I have more to share, if you want me to go on! Trust me. > >> > >> Here is my suggestion. Stop attacking and putting down Cambodian > >> people and > >> her government via Phnom Penh Post. Posting article via Phnom Post > >> will be > >> read by mostly foreigners, in Phnom Penh and aboard, your article > >> will only > >> stack more mud on the Cambodian people. This government is not > >> perfect. If > >> you care, let's help Cambodian people by helping the government to > >> improve > >> their mean and way of doing government businesses. Let's start with > >> solidarity first. Solidarity is the most effective way to > >> consolidate power > >> and fight the enemy of all kinds; foreign and domestic. Keep in > >> mind that > >> democracy does not happen overnight. It took US and Canada over > >> 200 years > >> for their democracies and still not 100% perfect. Do not forget > >> that your > >> well being here in US or Canada is the result of the current > >> government > >> policy. > >> > >> Here I go again......You must learn how to give back, not just > >> take. Or > >> giving back is not what you believe in? Stop taking from an > >> little old lady > >> like the one you did in Hawaii. She gave you so much of what she > >> had; she > >> had to collect cans and saved portion of her SS incomes to > >> contribute to > >> your Buddhism preach, because she trusted you as a true monk. > >> > >> I am going to stop here and hoping that you are able to start > >> giving back > >> with your heart. > >> > >> > >> Heng Sombat > >> Irvine, Ca > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> [mailto:[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf > >> Of sophan > >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:59 > >> To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org > >> <http://www.cambodia.org> > >> Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > >> > >> Hi Heng Sombat and Kangkaroo; > >> > >> Some info you claimed is correct, but major of them is wrong about me. > >> If you want to know me more, go to these links. > >> > >> http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html > >> <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Ecsaloha/officers.html> > >> or > >> http://www2.hawaii.edu/~sophan/ <http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Esophan/> > >> > >> I am not affiliated with any political parties inside or outside of > >> Cambodia. I am currently a student of UH, and community facilitator. > >> My letter to the Phnom Penh Post has fairly articulated to bring > >> benefits to > >> all sides especially the collective interests of the nation. > >> > >> Please re-read my article again and again before you assume to > >> reply this or > >> that. > >> > >> PS: I am an individual of UH's student. I am not representing all > >> students > >> in this University including Cambodian students studying there, > >> like many > >> other writers who revealed their places such as Phnom Penh, > >> California or > >> others, surely not represent everyone there. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> S. > >> > >> On Jan 7, 10:33 pm, Heng Sombat <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > Hello Kararoo, > >> > > >> > Your points are very straight and very much appreciated. The > >> author > >> > of this letter to Phnom Penh Post has no practical logic or merit > >> > behind his article. He just wanted his name to be read in Phnom > >> Penh > >> Post. > >> > > >> > Sam Rainsy's actions in the last 15 years are very questionable. I > >> > have the opportunity to meet Rainsy when he was the Minister of > >> > Finance and after he got kicked out of the government. He > >> knows how > >> > to use less fortunate people for his personal gain. Just like Koy > >> > Pech in > >> the 1971, Lon Nol Era. > >> > Students died from his actions. > >> > > >> > Now let's look at this author character and purpose of his writing > >> > this article, so we could analyst his intention. I started out by > >> > contacting my fellow friend (let's call him Sok) at Hawaii > >> University > >> > at Manoa Campus to verify who is this Sophan Seng really is. > >> > > >> > Here is what I found out. > >> > > >> > 1. Sophan was a student at UH and had moved back to Canada since > >> 2009. > >> > 2. He was a monk from Cambodia via Canada before moved to > >> Hawaii. On > >> > top of it, he did served his monk hood properly. > >> > > >> > In the body of his article he expressed the wrong doing of the HS > >> > government, but fail to understand the responsibility of the > >> Rainsy as MP. > >> > MP is just a law maker not a law enforcer. What authority does > >> MP has > >> > to act as POLICE. Rainsy's action only create division among our > >> > people, but fail to promote solidarity. His actions only make us > >> > Khmer > >> weak. > >> > > >> > If you talk about corruption, let's us ash how Rainsy live with > >> his MP > >> > salary. Someone is paying for his living cost plus traveling in and > >> > out of Cambodia whenever he wishes to travel. > >> > > >> > I suggest that Sophon think twice before he writes again about > >> the HS > >> > government. HS is not perfect, but the best government we had > >> in the > >> > last 100 years. We all able to get higher education and freedom to > >> > express our opinion more than previous governments. Freedom of > >> speech > >> > has come a long way. But please keep freedom of speech within > >> limitation. > >> > > >> > Let's look at our previous government: Sihanouk's government > >> fail....... > >> > Lon Nol's government fail...... Pol Pot's government fail to year > >> > ZERO. I guess Sophan wants to live year Zero again. > >> > > >> > One more note for Sophon, if you are not with UH or speaking on > >> > behalf of UH, please do not sign on behalf of UH, because your > >> article > >> > to Phnom Penh Post created concern for UH Cambodian Students in > >> > Hawaii. Not all students in UH approved your statement. > >> > > >> > Heng Sombat > >> > Irvine, Ca > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On > >> > Behalf > >> > > >> > Of sopha > >> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:56 AM > >> > To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org > >> <http://www.cambodia.org> > >> > Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > >> > > >> > On Jan 7, 2:28 am, kangaroo <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > Reading your article “Three more sought in removal of post > >> at Svay > >> > > > Rieng border” (January 4) broke my heart. > >> > > >> > > > The villagers should be congratulated and taken care of by the > >> > > > government for their courage in publicly claiming their > >> ownership > >> > > > of the rice paddies and denouncing the violation of their > >> > > > territory by Vietnamese authorities who have mismanaged the > >> > > > process of demarcating the border. Instead, as unbelievable > >> as it > >> > > > may sound, these five farmers face a terrifying fate and the > >> loss > >> > > > of their status > >> > as “good” citizens. > >> > > >> > > Look at their acts. They have done something on their own hands > >> > > along with Sam Rainsy. Did they do the right thing? > >> > > Look at it yourself. A small group of people disagree with border > >> > > demarkation along with their leader, Sam Rainsy. They acted > >> > > illegally whether you like it or not. They did a wrong thing. > >> > > Actually, they did it to demonstarte their disagreement with the > >> government. > >> > > Be serious about it. Doing a wrong thing to correct a wrong thing > >> > > would never work. Sam Rainsy and that small group of people > >> did just > >> > > that. Now they are facing their consequences. > >> > > Oh ask those people this. They did it along with Sam Rainsy in > >> that > >> > > village. Now, they all are in trouble including Sam Rainsy. > >> WHERE IS > >> > > SAM RAINSY TODAY? > >> > > How about those people in the group? Where are they today? > >> > > >> > It is good to hear from you. Why all Cambodian people have trouble? > >> > > >> > > > There have been different interpretations of this story > >> within the > >> > > > media, but at the end of the day, no one can deny the truth: > >> > > > Cambodian people living along the borders with Thailand, > >> Laos and > >> > > > Vietnam no longer dare voice their concerns about neighbouring > >> > > > countries encroaching on their territory and > >> > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. > Thank you for your understanding. 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