It's tough when you have to leave them so quickly like that - no time for 
the transition.  This morning my Adrien was screaming so much, I was happy 
to leave him at the daycare!  :-)  Not very caring and maternal, I know...

Have you tried asking Katy what might help?  I know it sounds odd, but you 
said she's 3 years old?  She might be able to give you some ideas...  Maybe 
you'd be able to get her to agree that screaming and crying and throwing up 
isn't something that's good (does she like throwing up and getting all 
upset?) and so she could tell you what would make her feel better...

You know, a conversation like...
"Katy - tell me what happens in the mornings before we go to Lori's for 
daycare" and she might say something like "I cry" or "I throw up" or 
something like that and you could ask "Do you like crying?" or "Do you like 
throwing up?" or something like that.  And hopefully she would say no... and 
then maybe you could ask something like "What would be better in the 
mornings?" or "What do you like doing instead?" and maybe she would give you 
some ideas... Although she might say "I like staying home with you" in which 
case you'd have to say that isn't an option every morning... but she does 
get some days at home with you, right?

Sounds like Katy is certainly intelligent enough to understand that she 
needs to go to daycare on some mornings...  I wonder if she gets confused as 
to why some days she has to go to Lori's when on other mornings she doesn't. 
  Do you think that might be an issue??

But what do I know??  But I do understand your feelings about why some women 
run away!  I think we've all been there several times...

It's tough when you are working so hard and not seeing any results... but 
parenting does take time.  And this might be funny stories to embarrass her 
with later! Especially when she's bringing home her first boyfriends...

Courage!
:-) Lisa

PS> Where do you live?  We have sun today in southern Ontario, but we had 
major rain last week - hurricane Francis remnants or something.  I'm just 
glad our basement didn't flood!!!


>From: Samantha Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "canada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "canada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [canada] RE: Katy-I don't know what to do!!!
>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:54:32 -0700
>
>Thanks Lisa,
>
>I've been trying to really praise Katy for her good behaviour and give her
>hugs etc.  We were thinking (my psychologist and I) that it could be a form
>of separation anxiety or something like that.  I really wanted to be able 
>to
>stay with her at Lori's for about 15 min before I left for work.  The
>traffic was soooo bad that by the time we got to Lori's they had to get in
>the car and leave cause Lori's two boys need to get to school.  She was
>crying that she wanted to go in and have me play with her for a little
>while, but we just couldn't do it due to time.  I'm trying to spend more 
>one
>on one quality time with her also each day.  We are also trying massage.  I
>was told foot massage is good for the body and making it feel good.
>
>I'm trying everything I was told to do, but its not working!!!  We are even
>doing relaxation and imagery at night, but that is even hard to do as she
>doesn't do the relaxation part properly.  I need her in a relaxed state so 
>I
>can start getting into her subconscious mind.  I know when likes the story
>that we make up anyway so hopefully she is enjoying that time together.
>
>I never imagined parenting was going to be so hard.  I love my daughter so
>much, but I really don't know if I can take much more of this.  I can
>honestly see why some women just pack up and leave.  Its hard not to just
>run away sometimes.
>
>Thanks for listening.  I'm having a bad day and I'm not very happy since 
>the
>weather here is crap.  What happened to summer???  I'm not ready for winter
>and rain yet!!!
>Sam
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lisa Sansom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:24 AM
>To: canada
>Subject: [canada] RE: Katy-I don't know what to do!!!
>
>
>Sam my heart goes out to you.  It's so frustrating, isn't it?  I'm also
>going through a tough time with my 2 1/2 year old and his daycare - last
>week he went everyday without protest - this morning, 4 tantrums before we
>even got out the door!  He's not throwing up, but I really did think that 
>he
>
>was going to love daycare from now on... The one thing that parenting has
>taught me is that when you think you've got it all figured out, the kid
>changes the rules!  :-)
>
>What can I say?  Lavish attention on Katy when she's being good and hug her
>a lot.  At meal times, if she doesn't want to eat, just let her do whatever
>away from the table.  When she's ready to come to the table, don't make a
>big fuss about it - just let her come and eat or drink whatever.  And when
>she's ready to leave the table, just let her go.  That means she's done.
>Just love her lots and take some time out for yourself as well.  Go for a
>nice walk, or a massage, or a hair appointment, without Katy and try to 
>lose
>
>yourself in the pampering.
>
>Thoughts and prayers with you.
>Lisa
>
>
> >From: Samantha Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "canada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "canada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [canada] Katy-I don't know what to do!!!
> >Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:10:08 -0700
> >
> >Hi Ladies,
> >
> >Well at the end of last week I was getting really hopeful that I was
> >getting
> >Katy through her upset about going to Lori's.  Not sure if you remember,
> >but
> >we are going through a stage with her where she works herself up so much
> >when she goes there that she throws up.
> >
> >Well we had a perfect week last week.  She didn't do it once (granted it
> >was
> >only 2 days bkz Monday was a holiday.).  We bought her some treats for
> >being
> >such a good girl and it was wonderful.  Well this morning it started all
> >over again!!  She woke up and the first thing she said was "Where am I
> >going
> >today?"  When I told her Lori's she started to freak out.  I held her and
> >told her to calm down.  I ask her everyday why she doesn't want to go and
> >she says "Bkz she makes me eat".  Then I said "well I guess I need to 
>find
> >you a new daycare".  Then she says No!!  Anyway we breath threw the
> >butterflies and get her mind off it.
> >
> >Well this morning when we got there she was working herself up.  She 
>wanted
> >water and started saying Owie tummy etc.  Well she threw up her water.  
>It
> >was awful.  After that she was fine and said her tummy felt better.  She
> >got
> >in Lori's car and that was it.  Its like once she throws up she feels 
>much
> >better.   I am at my witts end.  I really don't think changing daycare is
> >going to be the answer, but I'm beginning to wonder.
> >
> >When Katy was small Lori always got the food into Katy.  My mom takes 
>Katy
> >twice a week and her lunch box always came back full.  She wouldn't eat
> >what
> >I sent, but Lori always had most things gone.  I knew this was going to
> >back
> >fire cause now Katy has developed this negative thing about Lori.  I 
>don't
> >know what to do.  I watched her work herself up this morning.  I could 
>feel
> >her heart racing.  Then I knew what was coming next.
> >
> >I am sitting here writing this with tears in my eyes cause I hate to see
> >Katy go threw such torment and anguish, but at the same time I know its a
> >response that we need to change.  What is going to stop her from doing 
>this
> >when its time to go to school.   I need her to learn to deal with
> >situations
> >and not throw up whenever she doesn't like something.
> >
> >Thanks for listening.  I am taking her to my psychologist tomorrow.  Not
> >sure if she can help, but I really hope we can work threw this.
> >
> >Sam
> >
> >
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