I was thinking about this, and it occurred to me that showing some of the screens inline (instead of moving to a different page) within a div using Javascript magic should greatly enhance the user experience.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Anjana Fernando <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Amila, > > Thanks for the comments, and sorry for the late reply. > > > This is something I have mentioned earlier as well. I am not sure any one > > have paid a real attention to it. > > > > The problem with current DSS is that it try to provide every thing from > one > > wizard. Rather you can have > > different set of menus like data first, data service, contract first etc > .. > > as a top menu and show only the relevant > > things at the wizard which make less confuse to the user. > > Yes, we have been paying attention to your ideas very much :) .. And > this was also suggested by Sumedha sometime back, and at the moment, > we do have separate menus for the classical data services wizard, the > contract first approach, and the data first approach, and also > scheduled tasks for data services, these functionalities are clearly > broken down. And our next aim is to add more functionalities specially > for the data first and the contract first approaches to be used to > rapidly create data services based on some predefined use cases. > > Cheers, > Anjana. > > > > > In CEP also we had a wizard like structure. But what we found there was > it > > does not show the big picture to the user and > > he is lost in going forward and back word. If you can break down the DSS > > functionalities in terms of use cases then you can have more compact > views > > with each use cases rather than long wizards. > > > > thanks, > > Amila. > >> > >> If you compare DSS to some other large data integration products which > >> has a richer UI, you will notice that DSS have the most simple UI, > >> which provides the most functionality/customisability. Hope you wont > >> see this as me giving excuses for not making the current UI better :), > >> rather, we will definitely look into your ideas and consider the > >> improvements. > >> > >> Thanks and Regards, > >> Anjana. > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > When it comes to a wizard, there is an expected flow. You should be > able > >> > to > >> > move forward or back, and screen that take you out of the wizard > should > >> > be > >> > avoided. Those are something you should avoid according to the wizard > >> > paradigm. If you go through the DS wizard, it is obvious to the > >> > developers > >> > who wrote it, not to the users. One way in which people improve > >> > usability is > >> > give a set of things to be done by new users, and watch what they do. > >> > Perhaps you guys can watch me doing something and learn from the > >> > mistakes I > >> > make. > >> > Thanks > >> > Azeez > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Anjana Fernando <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi Azeez, > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > The wizard is not really a wizard since it does not necessarily > >> >> > follow a > >> >> > flow. Also, if you do things in the wrong order, bad things happen > & > >> >> > NPEs > >> >> > fly. These things normally happen at the wrong time; during demos > :) > >> >> > >> >> I do agree on the UI issues, the DSS UI is very fragile, and we've > >> >> been planning on rewriting the DSS UI soon. As in, some validations > >> >> are missing I guess, for instance, if you just enter an url of a > >> >> specific page by hand - something in the middle of the wizard, most > >> >> probably it'll give some unexpected errors. > >> >> > >> >> But, when you said, 'not following a flow', can you elaborate on that > >> >> a bit more? .. Because, I was having the impression, the current DS > >> >> wizard is pretty simple in a way that, it follows the below flow for > >> >> the normal service creation. > >> >> > >> >> Start Service Creation -> Create Data Source(s) -> Create Queries -> > >> >> Create Operation(s) / Resource(s). > >> >> > >> >> What kind of a flow are you suggesting? .. > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> Anjana. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Afkham Azeez > >> >> > Senior Software Architect & Senior Manager; WSO2, Inc.; > >> >> > http://wso2.com, > >> >> > > >> >> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ > >> >> > email: [email protected] cell: +94 77 3320919 > >> >> > blog: http://blog.afkham.org > >> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez > >> >> > linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez > >> >> > > >> >> > Lean . Enterprise . 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