> Tough one with existing hardware.  I suspect two 3gsps ADC's would have to
> be
> thermally controlled to get the timing problems down.

Maybe so.  We may try to experiment with this some over the summer.

> National sell an
> "up-tested" 4gsps version of the 3gsps part - it may improve matters a
> bit, but
> the ENOB figures for the part are only shown on a graph up to 2GHz and
> even then
> it's below 6 bits and heading south.
>
> Does it have to be 8 bit?

No, we could get away with 4 or 5 bits.

Maybe that's a way to save some FPGA resources: throw away the bogus bits
and use only 4 bits out of the samples.

John

>
> -Francois
>
> John Ford wrote:
>> Thanks for the info, all.
>>
>> As you might expect, this was not an idle question.  I have a need for
>> this right now.  The machine I need to build is:
>>
>> 3 GHz bandwidth (6 GS/s)
>> 1024 channels in the spectrometer
>> 1 polarization
>> 50 millisecond or less accumulations.
>> 1 ROACH board
>> How should we proceed without duplicating effort already underway?  How
>> can we best help bring this to fruition?
>>
>> John
>>
>>> Yes, I think a parameter is a good idea. Maybe just a radio-box or a
>>> drop-down-selection in the mask. Multiple cores will confuse users
>>> (like everyone gets confused by the multiple FFT blocks) and will
>>> probably become an admin nightmare down the road.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 07:40, Dan Werthimer wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> hi jason,
>>>>
>>>> perhaps we can have different yellow block cores,
>>>> one hardened for people that need high speed input,
>>>> one not hardened,
>>>>
>>>> or better yet - a parameter that selects whether the
>>>> routing is hardened or not?
>>>>
>>>> dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/22/2010 10:32 PM, Jason Manley wrote:
>>>>>> suraj is planning on hardening the yellow block cores
>>>>>> so that their routing/timing is locked down, independent
>>>>>> of what else is running in the fpga.
>>>>> Please don't make this the default behaviour. On designs that are
>>>>> nearly fully packed (99%), you need to be able to twiddle every
>>>>> part of the design to make it fit, and sometimes that means re-
>>>>> arranging the yellow blocks' innards. Part of the BEE2 DRAM
>>>>> controller was hard-routed and it caused complications when the
>>>>> chip got full.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/22/2010 2:57 PM, Mark Wagner wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think anyone has been able to get a spectrometer working
>>>>>>> at the full 3GS/s interleaved yet.  The best Suraj and I have
>>>>>>> been able to do is about 2.4Gs/s before we start running into
>>>>>>> serious timing issues.  We do have plans to meet soon with a
>>>>>>> Xilinx timing expert in the hopes of resolving our issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:12 PM, John Ford <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone done a 6 GS/s spectrometer using 2 interleaved 3 GS/s
>>>>>>> ADC
>>>>>>> boards on a ROACH?  I seem to recall someone doing something of
>>>>>>> the sort,
>>>>>>> but I don't recall any details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any info!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



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