What do you prefer? What's the most usable name, release.cmd or
buildsimple.cmd or go.cmd?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Tim Barcz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Updating now.
>
> Why "enduser.cmd"? just curious.  IMO it's not the most obvious...(I fully
> admit that there is "How to Build" but again, usability, usability,
> usability.  Most programs/websites have help sections that are RARELY used.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Roelof Blom <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Can you update to the latest trunk and run enduser.cmd?
>>
>> -- Roelof.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Tim Barcz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Markus,
>>>
>>> That would make more sense...
>>>
>>> I'm just suggesting to reduce friction.  It's a usability thing, if
>>> average users struggle to build, you should do what it takes to capture the
>>> average user.  I, you, people on this list, can build without much issue
>>> because we're used to the oss world.
>>>
>>> Just like you would on an application, make it "usable"
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Markus Zywitza <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But perhaps we should change release.cmd to call build.cmd quick release
>>>> clean build.
>>>>
>>>> -Markus
>>>>
>>>> 2009/3/27 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> It *is* fixed, but running some random build script without reading
>>>>> 'How to build.txt' will get you into trouble, like kzu demonstrated by
>>>>> twittering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like I wrote earlier, run the new *build.cmd* script, for instance
>>>>> 'build.cmd quick build'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know it this works for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Roelof.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Tim Barcz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure where things stand but I STILL cannot build when pulling
>>>>>> directly from source.  I am not the only one either, this is last night 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> twitter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://m.twitter.com/kzu/status/1399399001:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> get castle trunk, run included release.cmd => "'nant' is not
>>>>>>> recognized blah blah...". #FAIL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we get this fixed ASAP?  I don't understand why we can't reduce
>>>>>> the friction for building.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Roelof Blom 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I committed my local stuff. But thanks for the patch, it
>>>>>>> triggered me to commit this stuff. Run the new build.cmd script to use 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> embedded NAnt and NUnit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Roelof.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Tim Barcz <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isn't this what I committed?  Has the patch been applied?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Roelof Blom <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a version that has NAnt and NUnit embedded and has a simple
>>>>>>>>> batch file (build.cmd) to drive the build. Any objections to 
>>>>>>>>> committing it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Roelof.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Matt Robinson <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 then --
>>>>>>>>>> if you'd like some testing help let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> matt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Tim Barcz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Basically what'd I'd do is bring in nant and any external
>>>>>>>>>> libraries that are needed (nunit is another one I can think of) and 
>>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>> batch files for the most common scenarios.  The idea would be to
>>>>>>>>>> non-invasive on the build file itself, that's I'd like to leave 
>>>>>>>>>> alone for
>>>>>>>>>> the reasons you pointed out.  I only want to reduce friction around 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> current build file/process.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Matt Robinson <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what files in the current build setup would this affect?  the
>>>>>>>>>>> nature of the castle .build files makes it easy to do complicated 
>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>> (castle dynproxy -> nhibernate -> rhino tools / full castle -> your 
>>>>>>>>>>> in-house
>>>>>>>>>>> code), so I'd only be worried if this would somehow remove the 
>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>> "hookability", if that makes any sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Tim Barcz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am more than willing to get this up and running for major areas
>>>>>>>>>>> of the build if you all will let me.  I have this on our build here 
>>>>>>>>>>> at work
>>>>>>>>>>> where everything is referenced relatively.  The goal is that the
>>>>>>>>>>> users/developers should be able to get source and get up and 
>>>>>>>>>>> running very
>>>>>>>>>>> very quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Despite how this sounds, I see this as being very non-invasive
>>>>>>>>>>> and quick to do.  I'd love to contribute if you guys approve this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Julian Birch <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Consider this a +1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually wrote a program to do this, I got so bored with all
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the various bits you need to get/know.  Keep meaning to turn it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>> something someone else could use.  It downloads Nant, Nunit and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/2/11 Daniel Hölbling <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I'd really love to see that since I have failed miserably to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile Castle from source last week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some way to easily compile the source would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Especially since I often hop machines and keeping all build 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tools in sync
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is quite challenging)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Bill Barry <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hink there should be a text file there containing instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get the Nant sour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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