Same reason we dismiss JIRA, people here like YouTrack better. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote:
> why are we dismissing lighthouse again? > it is free, including hosting, and it has 100% support for github > integration (and we are looking at moving to github, which again will lower > Stronghold's costs), it has a full API, useful and simple, for integrating > anything else we might want (like donjon migration), and it is a kick ass > product. > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, G. Richard Bellamy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Both Ayende and I have offered. My guess is that Ayende would make for >> greater comfort, considering his longevity and commitment. I was offering an >> EC2 instance, as was he, I believe. >> >> >> >> -rb >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Krzysztof Kozmic >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:51 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: JIRA >> >> >> >> +1 for YouTrack. >> >> What about hosting it? Henry mentioned that Stronghold is rather reluctant >> to do it. Do we have any good alternative? >> >> Krzysztof >> >> On 2010-01-15 06:25, Ayende Rahien wrote: >> >> +1 from me, and my company can donate that as well >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:49 AM, John Simons <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Guys, >> >> I've enquired about YouTrack not supporting OSS licenses and this is >> what I got back from them: >> "Hi John, >> >> The point is that for the moment YouTrack uses commercial Berkley >> database. >> It's license agreement does not allow us to donate our product for >> free. >> >> We are working hard on our own DB, and as soon as we make and switch >> to it, >> we will definitely start OS license program for YouTrack. This should >> happen >> within a year. >> >> Since we do want to keep supporting projects like yours, we can >> currently >> suggest you a big discount for YouTrack. The minimal sum that we can >> offer >> is $40 for the Professional Edition, and $100 for the Enterprise. >> Please let >> me know if this is interesting for you, and I will instruct you on how >> to >> proceed. >> >> Hope for your understanding, and thank you for using our tools. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Victoria Dumova, >> OS Support Program Manager >> JetBrains, Inc" >> >> I'm willing to donate $100 to Castle for an Enterprise version of >> YouTrack. >> So should I go ahead and purchase a license, what do u guys think? >> >> Cheers >> John >> >> >> On Jan 12, 9:32 pm, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: >> > back then it was *very* simplistic. the lighthouseapp system is much >> more >> > feature rich, yet super simple to use. >> > instead of doing the whole SubProjects/Modules/Components thing, where >> users >> > are always baffled with and end up opening tickets in the wrong places, >> it >> > uses Tag based taxonomy, which is much easier to grasp and navigate. >> > >> >> > 2010/1/12 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> >> >> > >> > > Ken, >> > >> > > lighthouseapp looks good at first sight. >> > > and while you touched upon GitHub - what about its built-in issue >> > > tracking system? Is it any good? >> > >> > > On 12 Sty, 11:20, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > we do have another option - lighthouseapp has a free plan for OSS. >> > > > the API is great, and if we do consider github seriously, they both >> play >> > > > very nicely together. >> > >> > > > I've used lighthouseapp before on commercial projects and it was >> very >> > > > useful. >> > >> > > > 2010/1/12 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >> > >> > > > > According to the last two messages in this thread< >> > >http://forums.atlassian.com/thread.jspa?threadID=30191&tstart=0>it is >> > > available for free to open source projects, >> > > > > *if* the project is deemed valuable for sponsoring. As one of the >> > > largest >> > > > > OSS projects in .NET I think we stand a pretty good chance. So >> let's >> > > just >> > > > > wait on their response. >> > >> > > > > -- Roelof. >> > >> > > > > 2010/1/12 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> >> > >> > > > >> Does OSS license include hosting or we'd have to pay for that? >> > >> > > > >> On 12 Sty, 10:54, Roelof Blom <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> > Like Henry stated sometime ago the future for Donjon's >> development >> > > is >> > > > >> very >> > > > >> > unclear. >> > > > >> > The fact that JIRA is also much more mature, feature rich, in >> active >> > > > >> > development *and* is available on a hosted platform (this will >> save >> > > > >> Castle >> > > > >> > Stronghold time and money) I think the decision between >> > > 'alternatives' >> > > > >> is >> > > > >> > pretty easy. >> > >> > > > >> > Perhaps we should focus on how to get Donjon's data into JIRA: >> > > > >> >> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Migrating+from+Other+Iss. >> > > .. >> > >> > > > >> > < >> > >> > > >> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Migrating+from+Other+Iss...> >> > > > >> > Cheers, >> > > > >> > Roelof. >> > >> > > > >> > 2010/1/12 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> >> > >> > > > >> > > Since Donjon has some serious issues at this point, I'd vote >> for >> > > JIRA >> > > > >> > > anyway. >> > >> > > > >> > > On 12 Sty, 10:22, Markus Zywitza <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > So we're back at the beginning, having the same >> alternatives as >> > > > >> before: >> > > > >> > > > 1) Castle Stronghold maintains Donjon again >> > > > >> > > > 2) Castle Stronghold open sources Donjon as Castle demo app >> and >> > > we >> > > > >> > > maintain it. >> > > > >> > > > 3) We use JIRA instead. >> > >> > > > >> > > > -Markus >> > >> > > > >> > > > 2010/1/12 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>: >> > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi John, >> > > > >> > > > > Below is the response from Victoria Dumova, their program >> > > manager >> > > > >> for >> > > > >> > > OSS, >> > > > >> > > > > it's pretty clear. >> > > > >> > > > > Cheers, >> > > > >> > > > > Roelof. >> > >> > > > >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > > >> > > > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > > >> > > > > Date: Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM >> > > > >> > > > > Subject: RE: YouTrack for Castle OSS project >> > > > >> > > > > To: Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >> > > > >> > > > > Cc: Jana Charif <[email protected]>, Ilia Dumov >> > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]> >> > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi Roelof, >> > >> > > > >> > > > > I'm pleased to hear that you use and benefit from our >> products >> > > in >> > > > >> your >> > > > >> > > > > software development work! >> > >> > > > >> > > > > Unfortunately, we do not have Open Source license program >> for >> > > > >> YouTrack. >> > >> > > > >> > > > > Best regards, >> > >> > > > >> > > > > Victoria Dumova, >> > >> > > > >> > > > > OS Support Program Manager >> > >> > > > >> > > > > JetBrains, Inc >> > >> > > > >> > > > >http://www.jetbrains.com >> > >> > > > >> > > > > "Develop with pleasure" >> > >> > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, John Simons < >> > > > >> > > [email protected]> >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> That is weird, according to the YouTrack license ( >> > > > >> > > > >>http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/buy/license.html), >> they do >> > > > >> support >> > > > >> > > > >> oss licenses. >> > > > >> > > > >> And we should be able to qualify for an oss license. >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> Cheers >> > > > >> > > > >> John >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Jan 12, 9:50 am, Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > I've contacted them and they have not open source >> license >> > > for >> > > > >> > > YouTrack. >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- Roelof. >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:39 PM, John Simons >> > > > >> > > > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > How about a YouTrack license from 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