+1 for YouTrack.What about hosting it? Henry mentioned that Stronghold is rather reluctant to do it. Do we have any good alternative?
Krzysztof On 2010-01-15 06:25, Ayende Rahien wrote:
+1 from me, and my company can donate that as wellOn Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:49 AM, John Simons <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:Guys, I've enquired about YouTrack not supporting OSS licenses and this is what I got back from them: "Hi John, The point is that for the moment YouTrack uses commercial Berkley database. It's license agreement does not allow us to donate our product for free. We are working hard on our own DB, and as soon as we make and switch to it, we will definitely start OS license program for YouTrack. This should happen within a year. Since we do want to keep supporting projects like yours, we can currently suggest you a big discount for YouTrack. The minimal sum that we can offer is $40 for the Professional Edition, and $100 for the Enterprise. Please let me know if this is interesting for you, and I will instruct you on how to proceed. Hope for your understanding, and thank you for using our tools. Best regards, Victoria Dumova, OS Support Program Manager JetBrains, Inc" I'm willing to donate $100 to Castle for an Enterprise version of YouTrack. So should I go ahead and purchase a license, what do u guys think? Cheers John On Jan 12, 9:32 pm, Ken Egozi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > back then it was *very* simplistic. the lighthouseapp system is much more > feature rich, yet super simple to use. > instead of doing the whole SubProjects/Modules/Components thing, where users > are always baffled with and end up opening tickets in the wrong places, it > uses Tag based taxonomy, which is much easier to grasp and navigate. > > 2010/1/12 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > Ken, > > > lighthouseapp looks good at first sight. > > and while you touched upon GitHub - what about its built-in issue > > tracking system? Is it any good? > > > On 12 Sty, 11:20, Ken Egozi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > we do have another option - lighthouseapp has a free plan for OSS. > > > the API is great, and if we do consider github seriously, they both play > > > very nicely together. > > > > I've used lighthouseapp before on commercial projects and it was very > > > useful. > > > > 2010/1/12 Roelof Blom <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > According to the last two messages in this thread< > >http://forums.atlassian.com/thread.jspa?threadID=30191&tstart=0 <http://forums.atlassian.com/thread.jspa?threadID=30191&tstart=0>>it is > > available for free to open source projects, > > > > *if* the project is deemed valuable for sponsoring. As one of the > > largest > > > > OSS projects in .NET I think we stand a pretty good chance. So let's > > just > > > > wait on their response. > > > > > -- Roelof. > > > > > 2010/1/12 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > >> Does OSS license include hosting or we'd have to pay for that? > > > > >> On 12 Sty, 10:54, Roelof Blom <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> > Like Henry stated sometime ago the future for Donjon's development > > is > > > >> very > > > >> > unclear. > > > >> > The fact that JIRA is also much more mature, feature rich, in active > > > >> > development *and* is available on a hosted platform (this will save > > > >> Castle > > > >> > Stronghold time and money) I think the decision between > > 'alternatives' > > > >> is > > > >> > pretty easy. > > > > >> > Perhaps we should focus on how to get Donjon's data into JIRA: > > > >>http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Migrating+from+Other+Iss. > > .. > > > > >> > < > > >http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Migrating+from+Other+Iss...> > > > >> > Cheers, > > > >> > Roelof. > > > > >> > 2010/1/12 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > >> > > Since Donjon has some serious issues at this point, I'd vote for > > JIRA > > > >> > > anyway. > > > > >> > > On 12 Sty, 10:22, Markus Zywitza <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > So we're back at the beginning, having the same alternatives as > > > >> before: > > > >> > > > 1) Castle Stronghold maintains Donjon again > > > >> > > > 2) Castle Stronghold open sources Donjon as Castle demo app and > > we > > > >> > > maintain it. > > > >> > > > 3) We use JIRA instead. > > > > >> > > > -Markus > > > > >> > > > 2010/1/12 Roelof Blom <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > > >> > > > > Hi John, > > > >> > > > > Below is the response from Victoria Dumova, their program > > manager > > > >> for > > > >> > > OSS, > > > >> > > > > it's pretty clear. > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > > > >> > > > > Roelof. > > > > >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > >> > > > > From: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > >> > > > > Date: Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM > > > >> > > > > Subject: RE: YouTrack for Castle OSS project > > > >> > > > > To: Roelof Blom <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > >> > > > > Cc: Jana Charif <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Ilia Dumov > > > >> > > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > >> > > > > Hi Roelof, > > > > >> > > > > I'm pleased to hear that you use and benefit from our products > > in > > > >> your > > > >> > > > > software development work! > > > > >> > > > > Unfortunately, we do not have Open Source license program for > > > >> YouTrack. > > > > >> > > > > Best regards, > > > > >> > > > > Victoria Dumova, > > > > >> > > > > OS Support Program Manager > > > > >> > > > > JetBrains, Inc > > > > >> > > > >http://www.jetbrains.com > > > > >> > > > > "Develop with pleasure" > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, John Simons < > > > >> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> That is weird, according to the YouTrack license ( > > > >> > > > >>http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/buy/license.html), they do > > > >> support > > > >> > > > >> oss licenses. > > > >> > > > >> And we should be able to qualify for an oss license. > > > > >> > > > >> Cheers > > > >> > > > >> John > > > > >> > > > >> On Jan 12, 9:50 am, Roelof Blom <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I've contacted them and they have not open source license > > for > > > >> > > YouTrack. > > > > >> > > > >> > -- Roelof. > > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:39 PM, John Simons > > > >> > > > >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > How about a YouTrack license from JetBrains? > > > > >> > > > >> > > On Jan 12, 9:37 am, Roelof Blom <[email protected] 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