I have a '73 also, and I mounted two winches, two double sheave deck
organizers, two 2x2 clutches, two horn cleats, and two of the new line
controlled snap cleats (Spinlock Powercleats) on the coach roof, without
too much trouble. At the same time I mounted grab handles inside the
coach roof.
Did it by getting screws long enough to to pass through the inner
handles and the coach roof well into the outer handles. Best thing I
ever did. The inner grab handles are a godsend in a seaway, and a darn
good place to park spinnaker lines, gloves and such.
I did not have to move the outer handles in or out, but I did take one
loop off them, (the aft one, of course), to make space so the lines led
fair.
Things to watch: you'll need to be very sure of all the locations
before you drill because the space is, as you can imagine, tight.
You'll want all lines to lead fair, of course. Mine do, just.
I also mounted a fairlead at the forward port corner to lead the pole
downhaul line aft to one of the snap cleats (the other one is for the
pole lift). I have them side by side on the aft port corner of the
coachroof, where the can be worked by the middle crew together.
It all works together nicely once it's work out.
I did see one boat with the grab handles moved inboard, right on top of
the hatch slides. I think he, too, mounted inside grab bars, but maybe
not. I remember thinking is that possible. If it is, and I've seen it
and examined it, it might be a way to go. Will get you the space you
need for all that gear.
I'll try to take a picture of my layout, and I'll be glad to send it to
you if you'll supply an offsite address .
Rudy B.
Phoenix #2237
Pasadena, MD
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Thanks for your input Phil, I like the idea of using the transfer
points (of whatever kind), I've seen and done this at work, but it
just didn't occur to me to use it for this job. Some of the screw
holes done during production are less than centered in the wood, so my
idea was to just redo them. Keith's suggestion of teak plugs is a
good one for shallow holes, but the screws into the handrail go a lot
farther than the length of the plug, which could leave a weak
attachment. Hardwood dowel is available at Home Depot, so maybe
drilling the screw-holes out to accept a close fit dowel would be a
seaman like way to do the job.
On the topic of moving the handrails in or out, if there is anyone
who would like to comment on where their handrails are, with the lines
lead aft, I'd like to see pictures. I looked at a C-27 in Oceanside,
birthed next to us at a transit slip, which had the handrails mounted
on the outside edge of the coach roof. They were curved to somewhat
match the roofline, and gave clearance for his lines to the cockpit.
Looking at the pictures on Judy B's website, she doesn't have
handrails mounted, and you can see indications of where they were. I
am approaching geezerhood (almost 60, the new middle age?) and like
the comfort of a good handrail when I need to go forward.
Jim, "Tequila Chica"
Dana Point, CA
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Hi Jim,
Beware if you compare pages 5 and 8 of the C27 parts catalog you'll
find it looks like Catalina moved the hand rails in not out when then
did it. Seeing it first hand is better than that sketch but be aware.
If you were setting up for blind dowelling you would install metal
transfer points in the first set of dowel holes, align boards, and
transfer the marks by tapping the boards together with a hammer.
Transfer points are a little big and the deck a little hard so here so
I would try Listo grease pencil refills (about a $1 ea) set in the
holes with a little candle wax. Be sure you've allowed for the cabin
wall thickness before you start drilling.
Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip
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Listmavins,
I want to lead my halyards to the cockpit, but on my '73 model
the handrails on the coach roof are right in the way. I need to move
the handrails outboard, and want to reuse the old handrails, so my
problem is drilling new holes that will either line up with existing
screw holes in the rails, or plug the old holes and redrill (easiest I
think). So here is the problem, what do you plug the holes in teak
with, that will keep the wood strong, and won't force a drill bit off
to the side when it hits it. Is fiberglass with milled fibers the
way to go? Or teak dust and epoxy as a filler? Thanks in advance.
Jim, "Tequila Chica"
Dana Point, CA
