Rudy,
If you take pictures I think the list would like to see them too.
Thanks
Pat Ford
Seabiscuit 3692
Port Washington, WI
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I have a '73 also, and I mounted two winches, two double sheave
deck organizers, two 2x2 clutches, two horn cleats, and two of
the new line controlled snap cleats (Spinlock Powercleats) on the
coach roof, without too much trouble. At the same time I mounted
grab handles inside the coach roof.
Did it by getting screws long enough to to pass through the inner
handles and the coach roof well into the outer handles. Best
thing I ever did. The inner grab handles are a godsend in a
seaway, and a darn good place to park spinnaker lines, gloves and
such.
I did not have to move the outer handles in or out, but I did take
one loop off them, (the aft one, of course), to make space so the
lines led fair.
Things to watch: you'll need to be very sure of all the locations
before you drill because the space is, as you can imagine, tight.
You'll want all lines to lead fair, of course. Mine do, just.
I also mounted a fairlead at the forward port corner to lead the
pole downhaul line aft to one of the snap cleats (the other one is
for the pole lift). I have them side by side on the aft port
corner of the coachroof, where the can be worked by the middle
crew together.
It all works together nicely once it's work out.
I did see one boat with the grab handles moved inboard, right on
top of the hatch slides. I think he, too, mounted inside grab
bars, but maybe not. I remember thinking is that possible. If it
is, and I've seen it and examined it, it might be a way to go.
Will get you the space you need for all that gear.
I'll try to take a picture of my layout, and I'll be glad to send
it to you if you'll supply an offsite address .
Rudy B.
Phoenix #2237
Pasadena, MD
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Thanks for your input Phil, I like the idea of using the
transfer points (of whatever kind), I've seen and done this at
work, but it just didn't occur to me to use it for this job.
Some of the screw holes done during production are less than
centered in the wood, so my idea was to just redo them. Keith's
suggestion of teak plugs is a good one for shallow holes, but the
screws into the handrail go a lot farther than the length of the
plug, which could leave a weak attachment. Hardwood dowel is
available at Home Depot, so maybe drilling the screw-holes out to
accept a close fit dowel would be a seaman like way to do the job.
On the topic of moving the handrails in or out, if there is
anyone who would like to comment on where their handrails are,
with the lines lead aft, I'd like to see pictures. I looked at a
C-27 in Oceanside, birthed next to us at a transit slip, which
had the handrails mounted on the outside edge of the coach roof.
They were curved to somewhat match the roofline, and gave
clearance for his lines to the cockpit. Looking at the pictures
on Judy B's website, she doesn't have handrails mounted, and you
can see indications of where they were. I am approaching
geezerhood (almost 60, the new middle age?) and like the comfort
of a good handrail when I need to go forward.
Jim, "Tequila Chica"
Dana Point, CA
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Hi Jim,
Beware if you compare pages 5 and 8 of the C27 parts catalog
you'll find it looks like Catalina moved the hand rails in not
out when then did it. Seeing it first hand is better than that
sketch but be aware.
If you were setting up for blind dowelling you would install
metal transfer points in the first set of dowel holes, align
boards, and transfer the marks by tapping the boards together
with a hammer. Transfer points are a little big and the deck a
little hard so here so I would try Listo grease pencil refills
(about a $1 ea) set in the holes with a little candle wax. Be
sure you've allowed for the cabin wall thickness before you start
drilling.
Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip
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IC27/270A MMSI 366901790
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Listmavins,
I want to lead my halyards to the cockpit, but on my '73
model the handrails on the coach roof are right in the way. I
need to move the handrails outboard, and want to reuse the old
handrails, so my problem is drilling new holes that will either
line up with existing screw holes in the rails, or plug the old
holes and redrill (easiest I think). So here is the problem,
what do you plug the holes in teak with, that will keep the wood
strong, and won't force a drill bit off to the side when it hits
it. Is fiberglass with milled fibers the way to go? Or teak
dust and epoxy as a filler? Thanks in advance.
Jim, "Tequila Chica"
Dana Point, CA
