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I can only second James' post. The "professional" versions of RH are
a bargain, and so might be others. The increased ease of mind is
worth every penny, and ten times so. As Sergei said, he wants to
solve interesting structures, not fiddle with his machines all the
time. Setting up, and maintaining, fedora or other bleeding-edge
systems across a bunch of computers might be straightforward and even
easy for someone who has a lot of experience (and/or time and/or
support), but it is not necessarily easy for the rest. Sticking to
high-quality systems, both what concerns hardware and software, has
saved us a lot of time and $$ in the long run, although the initial
costs might be a bit higher. Having said that, Apple/Mac OS X is of
course the way to go! What else? ;)
Cheers - MM
On Apr 19, 2006, at 8:19 AM, James M. Vergis wrote:
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Mark,
I have not had any problems getting CCP4 to compile on the "pay"
versions of Redhat. Out lab is currently running Redhat Enterprise
4.3 Advanced workstation. For academics the price is $50/yr which
is a bargain since you get automatic errata updates and every
crystallographic program we use compiles and runs right out of the
box (its $25/yr for the desktop/single processor version). I
didn't have such luck with Fedora when I tried that.
James
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:43:56 -0400
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Hi everyone,
How I wish I could agree. I just rsync'ed, jigdo'd and http'd
myself DVD's
for FC5 and Debian 3.1r1. FC5's default, no questions asked
install left me
with a grub error 15. It appears that has to do with default LVM
partitioning
being incompatible with grub. Debian simply left me with a kernel
panic.
Needless to say Knoppix(Debian) runs fine on the hardware.
I wish this was all a little bit easier. Of course even if I get
some version
of linux running I still have the headache of patching, debugging
etc. in
order to get CCP4 to compile.
Well, back to the debugging...
m
From: Kevin Cowtan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: Choice of OS platform for (bio)
crystallographic computing
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:20:25 +0100
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Does anyone who has actually done it in the last year still
believe that setting up a Linux machine is harder than setting up
a Windows machine, in the case where compatible hardware has been
selected in advance?
To set up a Linux machine with recent FC versions I just put in
the DVD, answer a handfull of questions, and leave it running for
40 mins. I get OS, firewall, all the apps I need, a YUM gui for
getting anything not built in (such as media players etc),
automated updating of the whole system by a single unified
mechanism.
To set up a Windows machine I have to do roughly the same steps,
but I only get the OS, a few half-baked apps, and a media player.
I have to get licenses for all the other software I want,
especially an internet security suite, office suite, languages,
graphics etc, install them all, work through the security
policies, install virus protection and decent web browser, and
then cope with the constant bombardment of update messages from
every individual incompatible update system. And then resinstall
the whole system again when it gets clogged with spyware,
incompatible updates, or a destructive virus.
Of course, it is easier to buy a Windows or OS-X system
preinstalled. Which is I guess the difference.
K
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