As with Jurgen, I’ve never trimmed a residue.
In my view the trimmed residues do not exist.
If we were to build models consisting of only atoms defined by the experimental 
density, then I wonder what the original model of the DNA double helix would 
have looked like.

BTW, hey Jurgen, long time no talk.

Cheers,
Quyen
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> On Mar 10, 2023, at 12:09 PM, Jurgen Bosch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I’m sure James H. Is preparing a philosophical dissertation on the "State of 
> the atoms to B or not to B that is not only a refinement question” that he 
> will share momentarily with the board.
> 
> Jürgen 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2023, at 12:06 PM, DEBANU DAS <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, zero occupancy would reflect that. But not the coordinates in any 
>> proper way. 
>> Debanu
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 8:58 AM Jurgen Bosch <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Going back to RIP phasing methods :-)
>> So Harry in your particular case occupancy of zero would actually reflect 
>> reality for those “combusted” atoms.
>> 
>> Jürgen 
>> 
>> > On Mar 10, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Harry Powell 
>> > <[email protected] 
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi folks
>> > 
>> > One other thing that I haven’t noticed anyone mentioning yet (sorry to 
>> > those who have mentioned it!!) is that you may not see your sidechain 
>> > atoms in density because they are not there at all, in spite of what you 
>> > may have had in the original protein, or even if the atoms were really 
>> > there in the crystal _before_ exposure to the beam.
>> > 
>> > The coordinates are supposed to be what you actually find, not what you 
>> > hope is there.
>> > 
>> > Just my two ha’porth
>> > 
>> > Harry
>> > 
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