>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May 19 18:25:27 2001
>> >ide-scsi as a protocol is very limited. Many CD-ROM drives also dont
>> >support it.
>> Alan what did you do the last 8 years? Did you sleep?
>No I was busy writing an OS - and you ?
Well I am busy with a cdwriting suite and I have to fight not only for (or against)
one single OS. Cdrecord supports 30 different OS....
A simple solution for me could be to tell people with Linux problems that
they got what they payed for but I thought that it would make sense to try to
make an OS as popular as Linxu easier to use.
On my Sony CV-1E, I only needed to compile cdrecord and it worked out
of the box with the Sony PCATA CD-writer ... if I boot Windows ME.
If I boot Linux, I cannot even read audio from the drive and cd writing does
not work because of the existence of the ide-cdrom driver :-(
>> ALL CD-ROM's since ~ 1993 support ATAPI which _is_ ide-scsi
>My dual speed drive does not support ATAPI. It supports the removable media
>commands and a few obscure microsoftisms. ide-scsi fails on it. I doubt its
>that atypical
If it's dual speed, it is definitely older than 7 years. If a potential user
of antique hardware will not get it work without manual intervention, I have no
problems. If a person who just bought a brand new PC with a ATAPI CD-writer
and cannot use it out of the box it is hard. If someone like me is unable to
use a complete system bought from Sony and the Sony system is completely standard
compliant, it is bad news for Linux. In special when the same software runs without
problems on the same Notebook running a vanilla Windows ME installation.
>> >As I understand it the longer term plan for 2.5 is to rip out all the old scsi
>> >compatibility gunge in the scsi mid layer and move to a more freebsd like set
>> >up.
>>
>> So you are planning to drop ATAPI support completely?
>No read what I said. And talk to the IDE maintainers - then you might actually
>get somewhere.
If somebody will take the FreeBSD sources and make ATAPI an integral part of the
FreeBSD/CAM system, then even the FreeBSD guys will be happy.
To make things work as one would expect, there would be a need to change:
- ide-scsi to make it behave more SCSI compliant
- SCSI sr.c to make it work correctly with multi session CD's
- the ide PCATA low level stuff to make it work with the ide-scsi layer
so my PCATA CD-writers from FreeCOM and Sony may be used.
Could you please point me to the right persons?
J�rg
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