>
> Not entirely true, Tom.

Yes, I've found that out from this post and various others.



I work for state government. We recently had a
> fantastic opportunity to get CF in the door with our upcoming portal
> site and, hence, with dozens of other agencies and departments who will
> follow suit. I sent out notices of our RFP to CF-Talk. I sent private
> messages to some of the larger firms. I begged for development firms to
> just show up at the mandatory vendor's conference. All they had to do
> was send a secretary to sign the roster, and they would have been
> eligible to submit a proposal, but no one bothered.

I didn't know about this opportunity.


There are a number
> of state agencies scattered around the country that use CF, but not one
> state portal. Could it be because no CF firms are competing for this
> business? Total development costs on our portal, over the next few
> years, will certainly run in the high six figures. With all of the other
> projects that will spin off of it, the total will be in the millions.

Which state? If the weather is nice, maybe we'll move :)

> Then, there are the local development firms that would find it necessary
> to get, at least, a nodding acquaintance with CF, so they could vie for
> these jobs. As it is, all these ASP shops will tool up for the coming
> JSP projects.
>
> The problem is not entirely with Allaire. The development community
> tends to have its own favored practices, as well. Opportunity knocks,
> then it just goes away.

I'm going to research the vendor requirements for Oregon over the weekend.
>
> Sorry to sound like I'm bitching, but I have resigned on account of my
> agency's refusal to even consider Cold Fusion. They will have a Lotus
> Notes/JSP/JAVA environment, and they don't have a single person with any
> knowledge of any of these technologies, except Notes. The state portal
> will go JSP, because the folks who did the research for the RFP loved
> the term "wrappering" and think JAVA is the answer to all their prayers.

humph

> Plus, they love BIG IRON. They've been shoveling money to IBM for thirty
> years.

Several years ago I was working on an economic development project and tried
to get
the local Forest Service to have web pages done locally. They said the full
contract
was handled by IBM.

 It's worth noting that they invited several vendors to come in
> and make presentations to help them figure out which technologies they
> needed to target, before they issued the RFP. Any surprise that Allaire
> was not among them?

No

I VERY pleased to hear about this. Now I know the problem is marketing, not
politics.

Tom
>
> --John
>
>
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