I agree wholeheartedly even though I tend to be classified as a
bleeding heart liberal.
we need to identify the right people and their affiliations. if they
have training camps get rid of them... issue embargos, ask for
extradition. no demand their extradition... hold the governments
accountable. and if they won't produce the body, send a few missiles to
promote it.
from what we have seen here though is that INS lets too many people in
and sucks as a government branch. We need to make it harder for
incoming folks... INS needs to cleanup the crap that comes here... I
know many non US citizens who come here, borrow tons of money for
school and from our banks and evaporate... It stinks..
Beyond that we need to identify who is receiving what kind of
training... I mean someone comes all the way over here to take some
flight traINing.. maybe it didn't seem suspect.. but people need to be
more inquisitive...
right now it appears we in part enabled the attack. We trained them to
fly right here at home.
punishment must be swift and accurate. I can not emphasize the accurate
part enough. I don't want Afghanastan bombed if they aren't to blame.
We want to address the issue.
The alternative is to bomb the whole mass and leave no one to observe
them as martyrs. Although, I hope such radicalism never occurs.
Watch out, September 15th I believe might have something at hand
elsewhere in the world... certainly nothing on our soil, but Israel,
Afghanastan and neighboring places like Pakistan are hot bed of
activity at the moment.
-paris
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-----Original Message-----
From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:11:10 -0700
Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
> I was born in Portland OR.
>
> It's not the only road for us. People like you are the reason
> terrorism
> continues. They attack, we do nothing, they attack, we do nothing,
> and
> people like you just keep chanting the age old Mantra, ignore them
> and they
> will stop. What would you propose the US do. impose sanctions on
> Afghanistan? Send a nasty Email? We did nothing when the Cole was
> attacked,
> we did nothing when our embassy's were attacked.
>
> Did you read the link Good Mr. Dinowitz sent?
> http://arutzsheva.com/news.php3?id=9765
>
> Doing nothing inspires more attacks, neutralizing the threat ends the
> attacks. How does one get roaches out of their house, ignore them,
> tell them
> how bad they are? no kill them all, including the queen.
>
> We'll recover and set ourselves up for another attack.
>
> Wake up guy, this isn't the world where good intentions and taking
> the high
> road wins. I know it's less than ideal but the saying is true, evil
> begets
> evil. They have attacked us, we need to strike back and rock them so
> that if
> they ever think about attacking us again, they shudder and change
> their
> minds.
>
> You'd probably wait until every major city was in flames before
> deciding
> that action needed.
>
>
> In case you are too close minded to follow the link:
>
> "The Punishment For Not Responding Forcefully
> Yoram Ettinger, Israel's former liaison to the U.S. Congress, told
> Arutz-7
> today, "One thing that we can learn from yesterday is the punishment
> that
> comes to those who don't respond forcefully to terrorism. Allow me
> review
> the following:
> "October 2000 - 17 US sailors were murdered in a Bin Laden attack in
> Aden,
> but the Clinton administration did not respond militarily, because he
> preferred to conduct negotiations.
> "Aug 1998 - 257 people, including 12 Americans, were killed in the
> bombing
> of American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the response was
> cruiser
> missiles to insignificant targets in Sudan and Pakistan.
> "June '96 - 19 Americans murdered in a military base in Saudi Arabia,
> with
> no American military response.
> "November '95 - 5 Americans were murdered in an army base in Riyadh,
> with no
> American military response.
> "This shows us what is the punishment for using negotiations as an
> option
> for terrorism." "
>
> J.
>
>
> John Wilker
> Web Applications Consultant
> Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
>
> www.red-omega.com <http://www.red-omega.com>
>
> What does Snoop Dogg use to do his laundry? Blee-otch!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:23 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
>
>
> LOL. Our two definitions of realist is somewhat different. Yours
> sounds to
> me like saying HalfLife is "realistic".
>
> What if it was your mother, father, sister or brother who was
> "accused" of
> what you are talking about?
>
> No, the high road is the ONLY road for us, that is what makes this
> country
> so great and what will allow us to recover from this disaster. It is
> the
> people like Bin Laden (and you) that share these attitudes and views.
> You
> were born in the wrong country (or maybe not, where are you from?).
> You
> should move to Afghanistan and take that low road.
>
> -Gary
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:06 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
> >
> >
> > I prefer the term realist.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Wilker
> > Web Applications Consultant
> > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
> >
> > www.red-omega.com <http://www.red-omega.com>
> >
> > What does Snoop Dogg use to do his laundry? Blee-otch!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:56 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
> >
> >
> > Nazi.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:47 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
> > >
> > >
> > > well if you had shot them all then they would not be a problem. I
> > > know it's
> > > harsh and it sucks and you know what, life sucks in a lot of
> ways.
> > >
> > > The problem with taking the high road all the time is that you
> > > are up there
> > > for everyone to shoot at.
> > >
> > > Just think how much power the IRA would have if in the beginning
> GB had
> > > killed hundreds for even being suspected... I know I'd be very
> > > leery to join
> > > up. And just think how many terrorists cells will be less likely
> to mess
> > > with the US if we take them and the country harboring them out.
> How many
> > > countries are likely to continue harboring these fiends?
> > >
> > > The saying is "For every action there is an equal and opposite
> > reaction",
> > > not "For every action we will take the high road and be better
> > > people" while
> > > our friends and family are killed at will by people who don't
> > really care
> > > if they are sinking to a lower level.
> > >
> > > J.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Wilker
> > > Web Applications Consultant
> > > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
> > >
> > > www.red-omega.com <http://www.red-omega.com>
> > >
> > > What does Snoop Dogg use to do his laundry? Blee-otch!
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Gilchrist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:30 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think you understand. GB did try and put away all the
> > > terrorists at
> > > the start by introducing emergency powers and internment. They
> > basically
> > > went out and imprisoned hundreds of people without trial.
> > >
> > > Guess what happened?
> > >
> > > A some of those folks weren't terrorists at all
> > > B Because of A, it just galvanised the nationalist community and
> people
> > > joined the IRA in droves.
> > >
> > > That sort of solution isn't fighting fire with fire, it's poring
> > > gas on the
> > > fire.
> > > Good job the GB didn't just round em into a field and shoot them.
> > > God knows
> > > what would have happened then.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:17 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
> > >
> > >
> > > No they're the reason that something like this happens so
> > infrquently here
> > > and the rest of the world is terrorized so often. You think our
> airports
> > > became unsecure in the last few months. This could have happenned
> at any
> > > time for years now, but no one has been organized or gutsy enough
> > > to pull it
> > > off, now they have and the US needs to make it clear to the
> > world that we
> > > won't put up with it the way GB puts up with the IRA. If you
> > > hunted down the
> > > IRA and got done with the whole thing you wouldn't have to be
> afraid of
> > > bombs each day going off. Clearly the ignore it and it will go
> > > away approach
> > > is not the right one.
> > >
> > > J.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:06 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Communication about the attack
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeez, listen to yourself? Your opinion(s) are why acts like
> > > these are aimed
> > > at the US! Do we in GB decide to carpet bomb Ireland after the
> > IRA or its
> > > breakaway groups explose a bomb in London or in the UK?
> > >
> >
>
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