Howard,
Where do you get off making logical and rational conclusions? You are
so arrogant. The fact that you believe in "freedom" makes me think that you
don't have enough brain cells in your head to think. I'll bet you believe
in God too? Religion is the source of all evil. How many wars have been
fought in the name of religion? How many people are starving because of
American Imperialism or because of Microsoft, Bill Gates, and Nike? Why
can't I vote for the President of Foreign nations because they have evil
rotten companies here in America that pay people to come and work for them
voluntarily of their own free will and allow them to make money so that they
can pursue activities that they want to? It's all about OIL. Rotten OIL.
And greed. Bad, bad greed. Answer me this Howard, since you are so astute
on everything? Why do I deny America credit when credit is due? How can I
condemn America for spreading "American Colonialism" by helping other
countries and then criticize them for not helping other countries in the
same breath? Figure that one out Mr. Smartie-pants!! Mr. I'm so smart!
I'll tell you why, because the American Media is evil. They're in cahoots
with the Oil companies, the Pharmaceutical companies, and the bun and hot
dog companies. There is the real embodiment of evil. They're ripping off
poor people by selling 8 buns but 10 hot dogs in a pack. That's America for
you. Take from the poor and give to the rich. I suppose you kick your dog
when you get home because that's what American's do! I've heard the stories
about how white men, after doubling global warming in their SUV's, come home
from enslavement at their masters company and walk in the door and kick the
dog. How cruel!!
Defend that oh smart one!!!!!
Respectfully and I really, really hope that you can smell the sarcasm!!
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:19 AM
Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> I can see where you're coming from ... I make four articulate posts ...
that
> along with some very articulate posts by other people ... that have backed
> you into a corner ... and the best you can do (referencing your post
> previous to this and now this one) is make personal attacks. You can't
> articulate an intelligent response, so you resort to this.
>
> Who's brainwashed?
>
> H.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:46 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act..
>
>
> I can't talk to you. your brainwashed.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..
>
>
> > That wasn't my phrase. I was referring to the previous post. But I
also
> > sense that you're nit-picking, being unable to rise to intelligent
debate.
> >
> > You've got a real chip on your shoulder. I think you've been feed too
much
> > leftist propaganda. At least that's the impression you leave.
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:29 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> >
> >
> > well. God bless america. Even the 'non-whites' as you call them.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> >
> >
> > > Manifest Destiny is a term that dates back to the 1850s. It's a term
> that
> > > was coined by expansionists after the Louisiana Purchase. Manifest
means
> > > "evident." The term meant it was the U.S.'s inevitable destiny,
> God-given,
> > > really, to expand from coast to coast. It was the rally cry that sent
> > > pioneers west.
> > >
> > > I would ask your friend, why would we engage in a war not in our best
> > > interests? Seems kind of ludicrous to expect us to, doesn't? As for
> > > engaging in war purely in the interest of democracy and freedom, see
my
> > post
> > > on WWII. Other conflicts spring to mind, but I don't know much about
> > those,
> > > so I'll keep quiet. I'm sure if I say something, somebody will mention
> > some
> > > U.S. company that owned some borax mine or something. Fact is, in just
> > about
> > > any country, you make an economic justification for U.S. involvement,
so
> > > many of our companies have such far reaching interests. We've also
> stuck
> > > our neck out a few times for non-whites, but again, I'm not educated
> > enough
> > > on the details to give locations and dates. But I can think of a
couple
> > that
> > > just maybe we had no economic interest.
> > >
> > > H.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:39 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm listening.And learning :)
> > > It is good to see differing, even sometimes radical, opinions
expressed.
> > >
> > > So don't stop now..this has the potential to be an interesting
> discussion.
> > >
> > > BUt just to throw something out there...
> > >
> > > Someone told me today that part of Bin Laden's goal is/was to prevent
> > > America from 'taking over' the world.
> > > It seems that there is a growing feeling amongst muslims that American
> > > Capitalism, and morals or lack thereof, will
> > > 'takeover' their traditions and their way of life (such as it is), and
> > that
> > > this must be stopped at all costs. This person
> > > believes that America is actively seeking to Rule The World and to
> > increase
> > > its powerbase and influence throughout the world
> > > through economic forces, military maneuvers and its 'foreign policy'.
> She
> > > said something about Manifest Destiny from the
> > > 1950s rearing its head all over again (anyone know what that is?). SHe
> > also
> > > agreed with Falloon when she said that she did
> > > not know of any single time in History when America intervened
somewhere
> > > militarily against its National Interests (and this
> > > includes Political interest of the then leader) or when it had nothing
> to
> > > gain from that military conflict. In otherwords it
> > > has never used its influence or its forces in any region of the world
> > simply
> > > to promote democracy, Freedom, or the American
> > > Way.She claimed that despite what the majority of Americans seem to
> think,
> > > and actually believe that htey are the great
> > > protectors of Democracy and Freedom in the world, that they would
never
> > > agree to American lives being lost somewhere simply
> > > to assure Freedom and a better way of life for a people, especially if
> > that
> > > people were non-white.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on all this?
> > >
> > > I told her she was full of sh**, but I'd get back to her on that
> tomorrow
> > > and ran out of the office ^_^.
> > >
> > > -Gel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >
> > > If I appear to have "anti-American blinders" on that only because I'm
> > > out-number in this board 10-1. Therefore I have to push this
perspective
> a
> > > little more feverishly.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that american is responsible for all of the worlds
ills.
> To
> > > say this would be folly and never once have I said this. I wish people
> > would
> > > stop drawing this conclusion.
> > >
> > > My point is very simple. The balance of power in the world is far too
in
> > > favour of the States and not by a small margin either. By a great
> divide.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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