> I disagree here Raymond. Advertising works. MacDonalds 
> targets children heavily. Why? Because it works. True, 
> parents can say no. But how often do we give in, on many 
> things, to things we know are bad for us. I doubt there are 
> many of here, who, drinking a bit much when younger, did not 
> think, "I will regret this in the morning."

I never denied advertising works. So should we ban advertising? Should
we make everything "butt simple" so that idiots don't get confused? As
for parents giving in, that is 100% your fault, not MacDonalds. As for
giving in in general, that's because we are humans.

My point is - it feels like your saying MacDonalds shouldn't do ads
showing how juicy/good tasting their food is. There is NOTHING wrong
that. If you are overweight and don't have the willpower to say no,
that's your fault. It's like those dang drug commercials. Half the
commercial is a list of all the side effects. Can't we all be adults and
know that all drugs have side effects, and it's our responsibility to
find out what they are?


> Oddly, alcohol does not target children. Alcohol even go so 
> far as to say must be over 18 and please drink responsibly, 
> or something to that effect. Smoking commercials do target 
> the very young. They know that they have to trap you before 

I can't remember a recent smoking ad that was targetted to children.

> you reach about 18-20, or you most likely will never start. 
> Look at third world countries. THEY GIVE IT AWAY TO THOSE 
> CHILDREN. Think about why Kraft was all over the Balkans 
> delivering "food". You will also a lot more Philip Morris 
> manufactured cigarettes there being smoked by kids. That is 
> their target market. Also look a Joe Camel, clear marketing 
> aimed at kids. Look in all of the magazines aimed at young 
> adults. Cigarette adds abound.

But they fixed that. Joe is dead.

> that little yellow stain on her front teeth?" But a kid, 
> focused on being a grown up like mom or dad, yearning to show 
> independence, may buy into smoking. Peer pressures don't help 
> either. Lack of aggressive education about the effects of 
> smoking are not there. Like most of our world today (politics 
> and environment especially), there is no long term thought to 
> consequences of actions we, even as individuals, take today. 
> I have seen kids say, "I will quit when I am ready". Well, 
> from a previous thread here, we know how hard that can be.
> 

But this can be applied to _so_ many things. We are human. We are
imperfect. Nothing can be done to fix that. 

-RC
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