Mark,

What is willpower? How do you measure it? Its all so great to discuss such
nebulous concepts, but what is required is data and a precise definition. As
I mentioned before cigarettes and tobacco has very strong physiologically
addictive components. So given that the rate of single instance cessation is
far worse than with heroin addiction, where is willpower in this case? 

Furthermore, yes to some extent you do have the right to abuse your body as
you feel fit (careful though you might go blind :). However by smoking etc
you end up making my health care costs rise at an intolerable rate. Where do
your individual rights end and mine begin?

regards,

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 2:48 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> 
> 
> Ok, now you're talking... legalize the good stuff. Of course, 
> I've never
> partaken of the happy weed. :-) But we know that will never 
> happen here
> in the U.S.
> 
> I hear and understand what you're saying, but I just can't 
> bring myself
> to condone suing someone for something that you are in control of.
> People can quit. It's called will power. I personally know, 
> as I'm sure
> many others on this list do, how difficult it is to quit tobacco. I'm
> currently in the process of quitting chewing tobacco. It's been damn
> hard, but I know if I don't stop, it'll kill me. And if I 
> don't stop and
> I get cancer, I have nobody to blame, but myself. Sure, I 
> could sue the
> tobacco companies, but in the end, I'm responsible for 
> educating myself
> and making conscious decisions on what I put in my body.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:59 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> 
> 
> Uhh...
> 
> What's wrong with suing them because you can't quit?
> 
> The company made it extremely extremely difficult to quit the product
> that
> is killing you...without telling you that and while intentionally
> misleading
> you.
> 
> You think it's not fair to sue them?
> 
> You think that everyone is supposed tobe ontop of the popular 
> media and
> stories to KNOW what took place during those court hearings 
> and to KNOW
> for
> certain that according to the very company that makes the product to
> which
> you are addicted :
> a) They do make it difficult to quit
> b) By their own research it greatly increases the risk of cancer and
> several
> other diseases, and will kill many people.
> 
> Another way to drive them out of business is of course to 
> Continue suing
> htem making it unprofitable to sell the stuff.
> 
> Or to legalise Marijuana.
> 
> -Gel
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> > Of course sueing is your perogative and your right. It's been a well
> > known fact that smoking can cause cancer and other physical 
> ailments.
> > What is ridiculous is sueing under the guise that, "they made me do
> it"
> > and now I want retribution because I can't quit.
> 
> 
> 
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