Seriously Sam, can you defend this stuff? 

Dana

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/11076647.htm

Posted on Tue, Mar. 08, 2005 
 
Gonzales defends transfers in terror cases

By Mark Sherman

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said yesterday that
before the United States hands over terror suspects to foreign
governments, it receives assurances they won't be tortured. He
acknowledged that once a transfer occurs, the United States has little
control.

The Bush administration's program to send foreigners to other
countries - known as "extraordinary rendition" - has been denounced by
human-rights advocates. They say it amounts to outsourcing torture to
elicit information that could not be obtained legally in America.

Gonzales defended the program and reiterated that the Bush
administration did not condone torture.

"Our policy is not to render people to countries where we believe or
we know that they're going to be tortured," he said in an interview
with the Associated Press and other news services.

White House counselor Dan Bartlett offered a similar defense of U.S.
policy Sunday. "We will not torture here in America and we will not
export torture," Bartlett said on CNN. "That is unacceptable to this
president."

The attorney general said the State Department and the CIA obtain
assurances that people will be humanely treated. In the case of
countries with a history of abusing prisoners, the United States
"would, I would think in most cases, look for additional assurances
that that conduct won't be repeated."

It is not known how many suspects have been sent to other countries.
At least three people have asserted publicly that the United States
shipped them to foreign prisons where they say they were mistreated
and eventually released without being charged with a crime.

Gonzales, who previously served as White House counsel, also defended
the continued detention of Jose Padilla, a U.S. citizen, as an enemy
combatant. Held since May 2002, Padilla has not been charged with a
crime, although U.S. officials have said he planned attacks in this
country.

A federal judge last week ordered the administration to release
Padilla or charge him. Gonzales has said the administration will
appeal the ruling.

"This American citizen has had the right of access to our courts to
challenge his detention," Gonzales said.
 
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:19:59 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let me get this straight, if there's not enough negative news about
> > Bush than the whole system is corrupt?
> >
> > Sounds like you are suffering from GG syndrome:
> > "It's getting to the point that many Americans I talk to don't want to
> > think openly - they develop a world view, find a commentary source
> > descibes global events through that lens, and then refuse to hear
> > anything else."
> >
> > Maybe the major media got caught making up stuff about Bush and had to
> > stop. Dan Rather ring a bell?
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:32:04 -0600, Dana  wrote:
> >
> > > I also agree that actual impartial journalism is next to non-existent
> > > anymore and where it does it is perverted. For instance, reporting
> > > that President Bush says x y or z is objectively true especially if he
> > > statement is alro released as a transcript. But what if what the
> > > president says is not true or is misleading? More and more it seems
> > > that this is addressed only in analysis that appear only on the oped
> > > pages or buried deep in the news sections of the better papers. I
> > > think that part of this is that news organizations are afraid of
> > > losing access to press briefings so they confine themselves to the
> > > strictly true "so and so today said" type of reporting.
> > >
> >
> > 

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