what's involved? She has been diagnosed as PVS and PVS patients can't
do that, therefore she didn't do that because these diagnoses are
never wrong... that's what it sounds to me like you are saying.

Have you seen the account by the attorney that says she tried to say
"I want to live"?

Dana


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:11:33 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Given that very few have any idea of what is involved, her account
> sounds more like wishful thinking more than anything else.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:04:47 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another nurse comes forward.
> >
> > I know Larry, they're stupid nurses and are not qualified to determine
> > if she really ate or spoke.
> >
> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151140,00.html
> >
> > Carla Sauer Iyer (search), a registered nurse who provided care to
> > Terri Schiavo from 1995 to 1996 at a convalescence home in Largo,
> > Fla., told FOX News in an interview Tuesday that her patient would
> > interact with staff, was alert and aware and could talk.
> >
> > "Her cognitive abilities including laughing, talking, letting you know
> > she was in pain," Iyer told FOX News, adding that Terri Schiavo could
> > say words like "mommy," "help me," "hi" and "pain."
> >
> > She also said Schiavo had accurate reflexes on demand. Nurses also
> > were able, at times, to feed Terri thickened liquids such as pudding
> > and Jello with a baby bottle.
> >
> > Iyer also claims that one time when she put a washcloth in Terri's
> > hand to test her reflexes, Michael Schiavo would get upset and say,
> > "that's therapy â€" take that washcloth out."
> >
> > "I think a gag order has been put on all positive things that Terri
> > has done," claimed Iyer.
> >
> > Iyer said she was coming forward "to let the truth be known, to let
> > the people know. I was one of the few people who was able to see
> > Terri. She was able to talk, communicate with staff ... I want the
> > public to know the truth."
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:53:12 -0600, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > negative. But it's not my criterion, it's yours. Except that you don't
> > > mind citing a lawyer's medical opinion when it "fits you view of the
> > > case," again your term not mine.
> > >
> > > The people who wrote those journal articles are at least physicians,
> > > no?  Definitely highly trained?
> > >
> > > Personally I think that you can approach this case on a number of
> > > levels -- legal, medical, ethical, emotional, and maybe some more that
> > > don't come to mind right now. A lot of the headbutting going on, imho,
> > > is a result of people not defining their frame of reference. Gruss for
> > > example is stuck on law. You *were* doing science; right now I am not
> > > sure. Sam I think is talking ethics.
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:30:01 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Dana wrote:
> > > > > but is he a trained neurologist, Larry?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are you?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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