Its the other way around - its not religious morals that make good sense, its good morals make good sense. Killing others bad. Helping others good. Its right or wrong with or without god. Folks always try and tell me that our ideals of right and wrong come out of the ten commandments but I believe the ten commandments come out of right and wrong.
However, as an example of where religion has no place in law: in alaska they just voted to add to the constitution that a marriage can only be a man and a woman in order to prevent same sex marriage from ever being legalized in this state. When discussing this with proponents of it they claimed the reasoning was that a) same sex marriage is against the law of the bible - the bible specifies man and woman so therefore a same sex marriage can never be a marrriage and b) its a crime against god and c) it makes a "mockery" of heterosexual marriage. Now, same sex marriage was not legal in alaska before this happened, but they wanted it in the constitution of the state to ensure their religious beliefs would be inflicted on generations to come. I had the opportunity to talk to a woman who was involved in writing the Alaska State Constitution and she was just terribly upset about the whole thing - it goes totally against the constitution which is about the rights given to the people by the state - to make its purpose to remove rights from individuals is just apalling to her. But I digress: the point being is that these folks reasoning involves god all the way - the bible says its bad, god struck down sodom and gomorrah - these concepts have no place in law, whatsoever. And generally folks who believe this stuff do not understand that their religious beliefs are just that - there is no conception that their religious views dont' apply to everyone. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lon Lentz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:02 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Bush Wins! > > True. However, a lot of the religious taboos make good legal sense, > which is why they are laws. The religious laws I have no tolerance for > are the blue laws. No liquor on Sundays, etc. I spent almost 4 years in > South Carolina when my father was stationed there. You couldn't buy > tools or paint before 1pm on Sundays. > > At least I'm not forced to wear a beard.......or a burqa! ;') > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Bush Wins! > > > I agree completely. I am completely frustrated with folks who can't > understand what a separation between church and state means. i.e. if > the > reason you tell me it should be illegal involves GOD, then it should be > against your religion, not against the law. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
