I don't fault religiously oriented people making their legal arguments 
based on their religious affiliations. We all have to have a basis for 
the way we see things, even if their reasoning annoys other people. We 
as a society do not see marriage with another as a right and therefore, 
we pass laws to control it.  Therefore, the majority wins, no matter why 
they believe that way.

 Also, and I'm not trying to pick nits. Constitutions are about defining 
the roles and limitations of government. The US Constitution tells the 
government what its job is and what authority the people allow it to 
have. The Bill of Rights reminds the government of some of the people's 
rights. Rights which can not be infringed. We do not derive these rights 
from the Constitution. We do not derive these rights from the 
Government. Our rights are based on our mere existence. And the 
Government's authority is based on our permission.



-----Original Message-----
From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:13 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bush Wins!

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However, as an example of where religion has no place in law:  in alaska
they just voted to add to the constitution that a marriage can only be a 
man
and a woman in order to prevent same sex marriage from ever being 
legalized
in this state.  When discussing this with proponents of it they claimed 
the
reasoning was that a) same sex marriage is against the law of the bible 
-
the bible specifies man and woman so therefore a same sex marriage can 
never
be a marrriage  and b) its a crime against god  and c) it makes a 
"mockery"
of heterosexual marriage.   Now, same sex marriage was not legal in 
alaska
before this happened, but they wanted it in the constitution of the 
state to
ensure their religious beliefs would be inflicted on generations to 
come.  I
had the opportunity to talk to a woman who was involved in writing the
Alaska State Constitution and she was just terribly upset about the 
whole
thing - it goes totally against the constitution which is about the 
rights
given to the people by the state - to make its purpose to remove rights 
from
individuals is just apalling to her.  But I digress:  the point being is
that these folks reasoning involves god all the way - the bible says its
bad, god struck down sodom and gomorrah - these concepts have no place 
in
law, whatsoever.  And generally folks who believe this stuff do not
understand that their religious beliefs are just that - there is no
conception that their religious views dont' apply to everyone.
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