> -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: just plain wrong > > Jim > > I've done the restrain thing, and I've seen FITS. My neighbors used to > call the police and tell them I was beating/torturing/hurting her. > Again, nobody ever considered arresting the *child.* Though yes, it > truly sucked at the time.
Again - I wasn't talking about this case but Isaac's assertion that ALL five-year olds would fall into the same category. I've already said (several times) that I would have expected the educators involved to be able to handle the case at hand. To address this specific case: I still don't know enough about it to comment on the "right" or "wrong" of it. This is not, as you're painting it to be, a situation that got out of hand and resulted in the police being called. Rather this is one point in a continuing situation. The police involved obviously knew the family. They told both the child and the mother (for some reason) that handcuffs would be used "next time". In this instance it seemed to me that the officer was following through on a previous threat. Now following through is generally considered "good" but I doubt this particular threat should have been made in the first place. Still - this only a sliver of seemingly a much larger picture. I can only say what I would liked to think I'd have done, not what anybody else should have done. > A couple of other points: > > If this child really has some sort of behavior problem it is up to the > school system to provide some sort of structured learning program for > her. One that doesn't involve handcuffs. Or do you really think this > child has so much power (at five!) that she cannot be dealt with? Come > on. Again - I'm can't say anything about _this_ child. I was addressing Isaac's point that such force would _never_ be warranted for _any_ five-year old. Many children (at five!) need much more help than most public schools are trained or have the resources to give (which is exactly why certain kids are not in public schools). > And that brings me to my second point -- if this were a school in a > nice middle class white neighborhood, that is probably the way it > would have gone. To me, this is about arresting a black child because > we assume she is going to wind up in jail anyway. Again I respect your assumption for what it is - an assumption. I see nothing to indicate this story has a racial component. It seems to me that the officer involved, having had dealings with the family before, could be viewed as going "above and beyond" if he's sticking with the case like this. That could be taken both ways (he may be going out of his way to help or to hinder) but that could definitely be the case. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:155173 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
