Not a washing machine timer, dozens of washing machine timers. Which are the preferred timer for IEDs. In the car he was in. People have been sent to prison for less than that here in this country.
And he is out, now. He was not killed, or maimed, or permanently harmed in any way. The system did work (albiet slowly). Jerry Johnson On 7/12/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if we are even talking reform. I don't have a real > problem with with keeping someone prisoner. (They might not like it > but it's a risk you take as a combattant.) What I am concerned about > are the people who are there on bad intelligence or false information. > Like that American who was held for several months because his taxi > driver had a washing machine timer - what was up with that? > > Dana > > On 7/11/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've said it before on here. Some of this bothers me too man. I mean, I > > don't see the harm in letting the red cross come in occasionally, or with > > letting them get (not send) mail. A review process could work I guess, but > > how the hell do you know if this person is "reformed". For me since we're > > not talking about citizens I think it's better to play it safe. I mean do > > we really want to turn trained terrorists loose on the world? On ourselves? > > Remember we didn't start with these people. They came here and they killed > > Americans. Now the Iraq thing you know I am really conflicted about. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:43 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: speaking of > > > > > > > Loathe wrote: > > > 1. These are not U.S. citizens so therefore not entitled to the same > > rights > > > as American's > > > > No argument there, and, had they been killed on the battlefield, I'd > > have no problem with that. And, for me, this is a tough issue. But. > > > > What message do we send to the world if we're holding people > > indefinitely? What does that say about our principles? And does that > > threaten our freedom? To me, it does. > > > > Now that's not to say they need a trial such as an American would get, > > but they should get something - even if that something is a bi-yearly > > review. It just seems to me that we need to go that extra step to > > show that, even under fire, we uphold our principles. > > > > There's got to be a better solution. > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Flash MX Pro from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=57 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:164402 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
