very slowly :) and subsequent to the efforts of the ACLU. Dana
On 7/12/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not a washing machine timer, dozens of washing machine timers. Which > are the preferred timer for IEDs. In the car he was in. People have > been sent to prison for less than that here in this country. > > And he is out, now. He was not killed, or maimed, or permanently > harmed in any way. > > The system did work (albiet slowly). > > Jerry Johnson > > On 7/12/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know if we are even talking reform. I don't have a real > > problem with with keeping someone prisoner. (They might not like it > > but it's a risk you take as a combattant.) What I am concerned about > > are the people who are there on bad intelligence or false information. > > Like that American who was held for several months because his taxi > > driver had a washing machine timer - what was up with that? > > > > Dana > > > > On 7/11/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've said it before on here. Some of this bothers me too man. I mean, I > > > don't see the harm in letting the red cross come in occasionally, or with > > > letting them get (not send) mail. A review process could work I guess, > > > but > > > how the hell do you know if this person is "reformed". For me since we're > > > not talking about citizens I think it's better to play it safe. I mean do > > > we really want to turn trained terrorists loose on the world? On > > > ourselves? > > > Remember we didn't start with these people. They came here and they > > > killed > > > Americans. Now the Iraq thing you know I am really conflicted about. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:43 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: speaking of > > > > > > > > > > Loathe wrote: > > > > 1. These are not U.S. citizens so therefore not entitled to the same > > > rights > > > > as American's > > > > > > No argument there, and, had they been killed on the battlefield, I'd > > > have no problem with that. And, for me, this is a tough issue. But. > > > > > > What message do we send to the world if we're holding people > > > indefinitely? What does that say about our principles? And does that > > > threaten our freedom? To me, it does. > > > > > > Now that's not to say they need a trial such as an American would get, > > > but they should get something - even if that something is a bi-yearly > > > review. It just seems to me that we need to go that extra step to > > > show that, even under fire, we uphold our principles. > > > > > > There's got to be a better solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:164405 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
