I understand the reason for the interest. Though there seems to be
some dispute as to whether there was one or several. But it does seem
that they/it were/was the taxi driver's so why did that filmmaker (an
American citizen btw) spend so long in jail? Just saying bad stuff
happens.

Dana

On 7/12/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Washing machine timers (he actually had a box full of them) are very
> popular with the Iraqi insurgency for IED timers - since they're
> mechanical etc., they are much less susceptible to interference and
> much more reliable. I'm not saying that that filmmaker had them,
> rather the taxidriver was responsible for them. Just carrying them
> alone indicates that he may have been part of a bomb making cell.
> 
> larry
> 
> On 7/12/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't know if we are even talking reform. I don't have a real
> > problem with with keeping someone prisoner. (They might not like it
> > but it's a risk you take as a combattant.) What I am concerned about
> > are the people who are there on bad intelligence or false information.
> > Like that American who was held for several months because his taxi
> > driver had a washing machine timer - what was up with that?
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > On 7/11/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've said it before on here.  Some of this bothers me too man.  I mean, I
> > > don't see the harm in letting the red cross come in occasionally, or with
> > > letting them get (not send) mail.  A review process could work I guess, 
> > > but
> > > how the hell do you know if this person is "reformed".  For me since we're
> > > not talking about citizens I think it's better to play it safe.  I mean do
> > > we really want to turn trained terrorists loose on the world? On 
> > > ourselves?
> > > Remember we didn't start with these people.  They came here and they 
> > > killed
> > > Americans.  Now the Iraq thing you know I am really conflicted about.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:43 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: speaking of
> > >
> > >
> > > > Loathe  wrote:
> > > > 1. These are not U.S. citizens so therefore not entitled to the same
> > > rights
> > > > as American's
> > >
> > > No argument there, and, had they been killed on the battlefield, I'd
> > > have no problem with that.  And, for me, this is a tough issue.  But.
> > >
> > > What message do we send to the world if we're holding people
> > > indefinitely?  What does that say about our principles?  And does that
> > > threaten our freedom?  To me, it does.
> > >
> > > Now that's not to say they need a trial such as an American would get,
> > > but they should get something - even if that something is a bi-yearly
> > > review.  It just seems to me that we need to go that extra step to
> > > show that, even under fire, we uphold our principles.
> > >
> > > There's got to be a better solution.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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