I thing he means the authors of the constitution On 11/22/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reason in this case is just an extension of culture and morals. > > We have determined 16-18 for various reasons in various places in the > country. > > In some states people under 18 can be married so long as the parents of > child say it is ok. The state has laws that deal with free will when > your free will can affect other members of society, or society in > general. > > There is no difference between the state and the people. We have > determined to create these laws to enforce our moral codes. > > Murder, Rape, Robbery, these are things that were immoral long before > they were illegal. > > Benjamin Franklin? When did he call anything self-evident? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:43 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: More Woodward Questions > > > > This is Sam's confusion: he doesn't understand that this "moral" is > > actually just the enforcement of The Golden Rule. > > > > That is, the perpetrator is preventing that 12 year old from pursuing > > his/her freedom. We arrive at this conclusion because we've decided > > by reason, rather than culture or religion, that a 12 year doesn't > > have the facilities to make competent sexual decisions. > > > > With gay marriage, for example, both parties are willingly > > participating. Banning Gay Marriage, therefore, is using the State to > > prevent free will; a violation of The Golden Rule. > > > > Benjamin Franklin called these truths "self-evident". Apparently not > for > > Sam. > > > >
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