That's a different thread.  It has nothing to do with this thread.

H.


-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:06 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)


Yes, and you were talking about the teachers religion requiring that she has
to preach during class.


----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)


> Nobody is talking about a teacher teaching anything religious during class
> time. We are talking about an after school activity where the teacher is
> merely a supervisor.
>
> Have you even been reading this thread?
>
> H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:07 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
>
>
> Here is what you said:
> > > And the Christian parents are among those taxpayers, so it's their
> > resource,
> > > as well.
>
> H, would you tolerate your childs teacher teaching them satanism in class
as
> part of their class time?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:07 PM
> Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
>
>
> > What does the faith of the teacher have to do with what I said?
> >
> > H.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:40 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
> >
> >
> > It doesn't matter because the teacher in question wasnt' necesarily
> > christian.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
> >
> >
>
> > >
> > > H.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:04 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 11:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 08:03 PM 1/26/2002 -0900, you wrote:
> > > > >Except, because the teacher sanctioned it the school is also
> > sanctioning
> > > it
> > > > >via their employee - the teacher is acting as a teacher not as a
> > citizen
> > > if
> > > > >they are on school property leading kids in prayer.
> > > > >
> > > > >Why couldn't the kids just get together and pray without making it
a
> > > school
> > > > >function (which is what they obviously wanted to do?)?
> > > >
> > > > The Fellowship of Christian Athletes is a national organization, the
> > > > chapter of students from Lafayette wanted to hold their meetings
after
> > > > school, they thought, hey we all go to this school, why not hold our
> > > > meetings here, so they found out that for a group to meet at school
> they
> > > > must have a teacher to supervise (not lead). So they found a
teacher,
> > but
> > > > when the school found out it was for a religious group they said no.
> > > >
> > > > In this case the teacher wasn't leading the students, he was just
> there
> > to
> > > > make sure they didn't break stuff. They weren't trying to make it a
> > school
> > > > function they just wanted to make it convenient for all students who
> > > wanted
> > > > to be a part of it.
> > >
> > > Except you understand that the reason the students needed a
supervising
> > > teacher is that it makes the group a school sponsored event.  The
school
> > is
> > > giving resources (paid for by taxpayers) for a religious group - and
> thats
> > > not allowed.  Nor should it be.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just because I work for a company and am of a certain religion, and
> say
> > a
> > > > prayer before I eat lunch at work does not mean my company is
pushing
> > that
> > > > religion. I think this is the problem with all of this. People are
> > people
> > > > and have they have rights as individuals, me saying a prayer to the
> Sun
> > > God
> > > > Ra does not infringe on your rights if you happen to hear or see me
do
> > it.
> > >
> > > You are welcome to say whatever prayer at lunch sitting next to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > > It is an infringement on your rights if I force you listen to me,
and
> I
> > > > think that is pushing it.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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