Nobody is talking about a teacher teaching anything religious during class
time. We are talking about an after school activity where the teacher is
merely a supervisor.

Have you even been reading this thread?

H.


-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:07 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)


Here is what you said:
> > And the Christian parents are among those taxpayers, so it's their
> resource,
> > as well.

H, would you tolerate your childs teacher teaching them satanism in class as
part of their class time?

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)


> What does the faith of the teacher have to do with what I said?
>
> H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:40 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
>
>
> It doesn't matter because the teacher in question wasnt' necesarily
> christian.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:59 PM
> Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
>
>

> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:04 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 11:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)
> >
> >
> > > At 08:03 PM 1/26/2002 -0900, you wrote:
> > > >Except, because the teacher sanctioned it the school is also
> sanctioning
> > it
> > > >via their employee - the teacher is acting as a teacher not as a
> citizen
> > if
> > > >they are on school property leading kids in prayer.
> > > >
> > > >Why couldn't the kids just get together and pray without making it a
> > school
> > > >function (which is what they obviously wanted to do?)?
> > >
> > > The Fellowship of Christian Athletes is a national organization, the
> > > chapter of students from Lafayette wanted to hold their meetings after
> > > school, they thought, hey we all go to this school, why not hold our
> > > meetings here, so they found out that for a group to meet at school
they
> > > must have a teacher to supervise (not lead). So they found a teacher,
> but
> > > when the school found out it was for a religious group they said no.
> > >
> > > In this case the teacher wasn't leading the students, he was just
there
> to
> > > make sure they didn't break stuff. They weren't trying to make it a
> school
> > > function they just wanted to make it convenient for all students who
> > wanted
> > > to be a part of it.
> >
> > Except you understand that the reason the students needed a supervising
> > teacher is that it makes the group a school sponsored event.  The school
> is
> > giving resources (paid for by taxpayers) for a religious group - and
thats
> > not allowed.  Nor should it be.
> >
> >
> > > Just because I work for a company and am of a certain religion, and
say
> a
> > > prayer before I eat lunch at work does not mean my company is pushing
> that
> > > religion. I think this is the problem with all of this. People are
> people
> > > and have they have rights as individuals, me saying a prayer to the
Sun
> > God
> > > Ra does not infringe on your rights if you happen to hear or see me do
> it.
> >
> > You are welcome to say whatever prayer at lunch sitting next to me.
> >
> >
> > > It is an infringement on your rights if I force you listen to me, and
I
> > > think that is pushing it.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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