While we are talking about X-Men, has anyone read the new Origin story of Wolverine? I stopped reading the title years ago but I this does sound interesting to me.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Superman vs Spiderman Jean Grey was a powerful telepath/telekinetic who was a founding member of the X-Men as Marvel Girl (originally only telekinesis). During a mission in space, she had to pilot a space shuttle back to earth while everyone else was protected in the cargo bay. During this time she was exposed to deadly radiation and was on the verge of death. At that point, a cosmic force called the Phoenix force came to her and offered her a deal. It would take her place and put her in a cocoon to heal. The shuttle crashed in a bay and a woman looking like Jean Grey popped out saying she was the phoenix. Unknown to everyone else, the cocoon with the real Jean Grey was at the bottom of the bay. A bunch of stuff happened with the phoenix thinking she was Jean Grey. At one point, her mind was tampered with my a mutant illusonist named mastermind. This released her dark side and resulted in her turning evil. At one point she 'consumed' a planet, killing all on it. She eventually fought the x-men, begged professor X to help her and 'gave up' being phoenix (or so she thought). The Shi'er, an interstellar empire came to judge her and the X-Men fought their imperial guard. They were losing when Jean Grey went phoenix again. Afraid that she would not be able to stop herself, she caused an ancient energy weapon to shoot her, killing her (or so we thought). At that point, the phoenix force flew out and down to earth. It tried to integrate with Jean Grey (in the cocoon) but she rejected it due to the dark taint. It then flew to a clone of Jean Grey that was held by a mutant named Mr. Sinister (looooong story). This new woman, madoline prior was set up with false memories and set to meet cyclops, Jean Greys lover. The reason for this is that Sinister wanted them to have a child and use it. (really long story). Eventually, cyclops met prior, married her, had a son by her and then left her when the cocoon holding the real Jean Grey was found. He went looking for Prior but she was gone as was his son. Eventually he found his son and Prior met up with the X-Men. This left cyclopse in one comic with Jean Grey and the X-Men in another with Prior and no contact between them. Eventually, Prior was tempted into becoming the Goblin Queen and tried to take the world to Hell. Another long story but the result was a fight between Jean Grey, the Goblin Queen, and the Phoenix force mixed in. Jean lived, Prior died, part of the phoenix force was in Jean and life went on. She eventually expelled the force totally during a mission. Jeans daughter from the future was the last to have the phoenix force. Jean is married to cyclopse, who was possessed for a time by appocolipse and has gotten darker (as well as not really interested in his wife). Cyclopse is running the X-Men, Jean is teaching at the school, the phoenix force will pop up as a plot element again and life goes on. There's a lot of gaps but you've got the 3 minute version. At 02:25 PM 1/28/02, you wrote: >Just out of curiosity - what ever happaned to Phoenix? > >-rc > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:14 PM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: RE: Superman vs Spiderman >> >> >> I collected till the early 90's or so and have 10's of >> thousands of comics. I stopped during college but picked up >> again for a few (like Hellblazer). I still take my Wed. lunch >> break to go to the comic store and read everything that comes >> out. Thanks to my memory, I can quote the plot of almost any >> mainstream comic from the last 20 years or so. >> >> At 01:40 PM 1/28/02, you wrote: >> >I raed X-men from 1984ish until about 93 or 94, whenever >> Legion Quest was. I >> >could not stand all of it anymore. I have a full run >> starting at issue 132 >> >until then. >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:44 PM >> >To: CF-Community >> >Subject: RE: Superman vs Spiderman >> > >> > >> >Yes, but they'll accept anyone including the Mimic who was >> also a Mutate as >> >well as assorted aliens, strippers, super villains, clones, etc. >> >The group in question is Marvel comics main money maker, the >> X-Men. The same >> >group that was raped to make the TV series Mutant X (which >> sucks like the >> >black hole of space). >> > >> >At 12:38 PM 1/28/02, you wrote: >> >>Thanks for the correction. I do, however, remember when a >> certain mutant >> >>was willing to accept Spidey into thier group. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:17 AM >> >>To: CF-Community >> >>Subject: RE: Superman vs Spiderman >> >> >> >> >> >>No, Spiderman is a mutate. He was a human who was exposed >> to something >> >which >> >>altered him (mutated him). A mutant is someone who has >> altered DNA from >> >>birth (different DNA from their parents). The X-Men are mutants. >> >>But yes, supes is waaaay more powerful. Even now that's >> he's "dumbed down" >> >>and can't move a planet (usually), he's still supes. Magic, red sun, >> >>kryptonite and brunets are his only weaknesses. >> >> >> >>At 12:07 PM 1/28/02, you wrote: >> >>>Superman. Spiderman is just a mutant with exhaustable >> powers. He would >> >>>give Superman a run for his money though. >> >>> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >>>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:53 AM >> >>>To: CF-Community >> >>>Subject: Superman vs Spiderman >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> lets get back to a less controversial topic .. like gun control. >> >>> >> >>>Ok, time for the age old question, who would win in a >> fight, Superman or >> >>>Spiderman? >> >>> >> >>>-Cameron >> >>> >> >>>-------------------- >> >>>Cameron Childress >> >>>elliptIQ Inc. >> >>>p.770.460.1035.232 >> >>>f.770.460.0963 >> >>>-- >> >>>http://www.neighborware.com >> >>>America's Leading Community Network Software >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. 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