I read that he deserted, so I made a mistake.

Mea Culpa.

- Matt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chesty Puller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Tim, what's your thoughts on this?


> Hold on...
>
> The Constitution is completely relevant as it establishes the Prez as the
> Commander-in-Chief.
> International Law is irrelevant as the officer in question swore to uphold
> and defend the Constituion, not international law.
> He also agreed to be bound to the UCMJ to follow all lawful orders.
> His superior officers (the President) ordered him to duty, and he is
> shirking that duty.
> However anybody feels about the war, he does have a duty to obey the 
> orders.
> I don't necessarily think he should be given a dishonorable discharge
> (that's a very harsh punishment under the UCMJ, reserved for murderers and
> traitors).
> He has not deseted, he has "missed a movement".  It's a similar but
> different situation, deserving of a "Bad Condust Discharge"
>
> - Matt
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Galt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Tim, what's your thoughts on this?
>
>
>> Sure is, as is the constitution or any other crap someone wants to try 
>> and
>> make a part of this.
>>
>> The only thing that matters is UCMJ, and I'm sure he will be found guilty
>> under UCMJ.
>>
>> Hope he enjoys Leavenworth.  I hear that they really love officers there.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:04 AM
>>> To: CF-Community
>>> Subject: Re: Tim, what's your thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> International law is completely irrelevant.
>>>
>>> - Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gruss Gott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Tim, what's your thoughts on this?
>>>
>>>
>>> >> Ray wrote:
>>> >> How are the orders illegal exactly?
>>> >
>>> > Doesn't international law prohibit an attack or invasion of another
>>> > country without provocation?
>>> >
>>> > So in this case you could argue that while we did have provocation
>>> > (WMD), we were wrong and therefore shouldn't be there any more.  The
>>> > fact that we are makes it an illegal occupation.
>>> >
>>> > The counter argument is that we're "guests" of the current Iraqi
>>> > government, however that government was only put in place a few weeks
>>> > ago and still isn't solid.  Therefore the first argument, while weak,
>>> > would still hold.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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