Sorry, I'm jumping in late here. What we are seeing is the failure of the post-WWII system that was put in place to prevent another world war. Specifically, we are seeing the total failure of the United Nations to be used successfully to resolve any dispute anywhere in the world. Iran doesn't want to do what the UN wants, they tell the UN to f!ck off. North Korea doesn't like the UN, they say f!ck off. Hezbollah doesn't like the UN, they say f!ck off. And what does the UN do? Nothing.
There is a solution, of course, as some here have already noted, and it is the strategy that worked so well in WWII. Bomb the hell out of everything and invade until the enemy folds or dies. Nasrallah might be hiding in the Iranian embassy? Bomb it. Of course, everyone will protest that we can't have a wider war, and that strategy will only draw Iran and Syria into the conflict, but as Tim has previously pointed out, we're already in the middle of a wider conflict, our governments (especially in much of Europe) don't want to admit it. On 7/30/06, Dana wrote: > > > > My answer is that maybe Hezbollah too think that we are bent on their > destruction. So Israel cannot let them continually attack, ok... but there > has to be another way to stop them besides killing them. Look at all the > violent criminals who are arrested every year. They are still violent, > they > still have to be stopped, but you can do this without killing them, > usually. > > > Where my analogy breaks down is that I do not know what would be the > equivalent in this situation. But what bothers me is that I don't see > anyone > trying to find one? > > > On 7/30/06, deadcityskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't care about his point of view. > > > > I want to kill enough of them so they stop. > > > > I've said it before. The only way this is going to end is after a huge > > war > > the US and allied countries will set up new governments in many of these > > countries. There will have to be large scale re-education (like the > > de-nazification programs after WW2), it will not be nice, it will not > feel > > good. It is necessary. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:20 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: comments? > > > > > > > > > yea thanks, but your position sucks too. > > > > > > If you know that blowing people up will lead to more blowing people > > up... > > > maye it's time to think outside the box. I refuse to believe that > > > these are > > > the only options. You know they say that insanity is doing the same > old > > > thing and expecting different results. The current situation reminds > me > > > soooo much of the buildup to Iraq. > > > > > > The people who are fighting this -- on both sides-- think that they > are > > > justified. And when both sides think it's me or him, it seems to me > that > > > there is a great likelihood thet eventually it will be everybody. > > > So while I > > > have vast respect for your willingness to fight, I do question the > idea > > > that it's fight them here or fight them there, actually. > > > > > > How does your presence in Iraq or Afghanistan prevent some poor slob > > who's > > > been taught since birth that America is the enemy from coming here and > > > blowing up a few buses? Meanwhile his family is being killed. > > > This will not > > > make him see your point of view. > > > > > > > > > On 7/30/06, deadcityskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dana, I'm happily surprised to see you say that. > > > > > > > > GG, seriously. Why can't you see that these people want the > > destruction > > > > of > > > > Israel. After that they want the destruction of the US, and after > > that > > > > they > > > > want the destruction of western culture. This isn't bullshit. > > > It's been > > > > going on since the GD crusades. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:28 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: comments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well... If it is repeatedly attacked what is it supposed to > > > do? I don't > > > > > think I know the answer.. diplomacy won't work with someone that > > won't > > > > > accept anything but your non-existence. I am afraid that you are > > right > > > > > though. The propaganda that will come from this boggles the mind. > > And > > > > then > > > > > if Israel establishes a security positionin southern Lebanon, we > > have > > > > > another round where it is the bad guy. I guess I am saying > > > sure, it's a > > > > > terrible idea. What's a better one though? > > > > > > > > > > On 7/30/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dino wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, they are not. The air attacks are designed to keep > the > > > > > > situation on Israel's terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Israel's terms are to cause an enormous swelling of sympathy > > and > > > > > > support for Hezbollah, then, yeah, its on those terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > All bombs do is destroy one of the only democratic Muslim > > > nations out > > > > > > there, while also enraging Muslims and the Lebanese, > establishing > > > > > > Nasrallah as a glorious leader, and fomenting a whole new wave > of > > > > > > Hezbollah recruits. > > > > > > > > > > > > This was likely Hezbollah's goal since they have plenty of > > weapons: > > > > > > instigate Israel into boiling up a recruiting campaign while at > > the > > > > > > same time increasing their stature and smacking down Lebanon so > > > > > > Hezbollah can rush in and be the saviours against the evil > > Israelis. > > > > > > Mission accomplished. > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the sentiment, I understand the emotion, I > > > understand the > > > > > > anger but, come on, Hezbollah is leading the Israelis on a stick > > and > > > > > > smacking them in ass at the same time. > > > > > > > > > > > > And for some stupid reason the Israelis just keep following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:212152 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
