> RoMunn wrote:
> No, Gruss is conveniently ignoring Nasrallah's own staterments to try to
> make his point. The fact is Hezbollah did not anticipate a serious military
> response, did not want a serious military response, and now they are left
> having to justify to other Lebanese why south Beruit is destroyed and
> southern Lebanon is occupied by UN troops. That's called propaganda, and
> Gruss buys it everytime, as long as it comes from the enemy.
>

LOL - To be clear, here's my conjecture:

(1.) Iran.  Ahmadinejad is the front man for a group of Mullahs whose
goal is to dominate the region and control the economy via oil.  Their
pursuit of a nuke is to directly control the US and force them out of
the region.  Their justification to the UN is nuclear power and their
justification to the Arab world is to control Israel.  While the nuke
is there prime method, their secondary method is to foment war and FUD
in the region.  To repeat: their true goal is domination of the region
and their rhetoric changes depends on audience:  "it's for power",
"it's to control the Jews"

(2.) Lebanon.  Clearly Hezbollah was attempting to provoke Israel, and
had planned to do so for months.  Whether they intended war or not is
irrelevant.  Israel's action was to essentially hand Lebanon to them.

RoMunn - if you're right and I'm wrong then we should see the Lebanese
people rise up and eject Hezbollah.  If they don't, then I'm right:
Israel handed Hezbollah a country.

gMoney - What works?  I'll use a football analogy: you try 3 running
plays to no luck.  You try 3 passing plays to no luck.  Do you
conclude that offense doesn't work?  No.  It's the combination of
methods and the dynamic use of them depending on what the defense is
doing that gets the job done.

Finally, Nasrallah.  Again, does it matter whether he planned it or
not? Only to judge the degree of stupidity on Israel's part.  It would
answer the question of how manipulated Israel was.  But they were
either stupid or really stupid.  But still stupid.

Either way the results were the same: expended resources for little or
no gain.  Back to football: you run your quarterback up the middle on
first down.  He makes 5 yards and gets beat up.  You do it on second
down.  He makes 1 yard and gets beat up.  You run him up again on 3rd
down.  No gain, beat up QB.

Was it all for nothing?  Depends on your measurement: if you measure
yards, you made 6.  If you measure score, you made none.  And either
way, you're still punting.

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