I think it is clear that we are not going to agree. The problem with this outlook, which you seem to admire, is that under it no woman will ever give birth. It's one hell of a leap of faith and if sometimes it's made in error, you don't see the father being held to account for it.
Children are essentially unwanted vermin in this view, whose fate is of no interest. Wake up man. Those children are going to grow up and whether they are an asset or a liability to the economy depends in large part on how well they eat and are educated when they are two and their mother can't work. Incidentally, I am not speaking for myself here. I was a single mother but never on welfare; Mike paid his share, whatever his faults The strict father model is a little more than just the presence of a father in the house. It seems to extend to saying that poverty is immorality and some other stuff. The link below seems to explain it fairly well. http://www.wwcd.org/issues/Lakoff.html#STRICT On 2/11/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > why are you so obsessed with other people's choices? > > Because it's my experience that people make bad choices and then whine > that they don't have what other's do. Then they ask the government to > pay it. Which means the people that made the good decisions in the > first place. > > Classic example: Jesse Ventura mobbed by Welfare mo it no woman will ms > whining that he > was taking away their government funding. One yelled, "how are we > supposed to pay for school and our kids?" > > He responeded, "you should of thought of that before you had kids." > > > You come from the strict father model, don't > > you :) > > > > Nope - raised by women. -- No enemies had ever taken Ankh-Morpock. Well technically they had, quite often; the city welcomed free-spending barbarian invaders, but somehow the puzzled raiders found, after a few days, that they didn't own their horses any more, and within a couple of months they were just another minority group with its own graffiti and food shops. -- (Terry Pratchett, Eric) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:227734 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
