On 2/11/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> For my part Welfare reform is a great example of how giving people
> money for nothing doesn't work.  It might *seem* benevolent but, if
> fact, it just created *more* poverty.  So there's a real world example
> of good policy.  And it's about pulling people off the public dole.

Well, I've got first hand experience in the fact that well-fare DOES
work.  Money for nothing didn't work too good, actually, so we
imposed some reform-- like you gotta be actively looking for work,
etc., etc..  Bunch of stuff to "encourage" people to use it or loose it.

Anyways, I worked pretty close with the Welfare to Work program,
and I saw people /move off of welfare/!!  It does happen!  Really!
A constant stream of them, even!!!

With my own two eyes!  Funny thing was-- many of them turned
around and got jobs doing the same damn thing!  Helping others
get off welfare.

It was pretty, I don't know, warm fuzzyish.

> Teach a man to fish, that's what works, and Jesus agrees with me.

No, it's all about proper cycles and use-- balance, etc.

So you teach a million people how to fish-- what do you do when
there are no longer any fish in the ocean (probably as a result of
all the fishing, and thus, the solution only caused the next problem).

> (now, let's see what I can do about the women having sex thing ...)

Sterilize anyone who makes under 200k a year!  Dang-- then we
get into the whole problem of how for some reason educated
people have less kids, or whatnot.  Eh, breed ourselves outta
the problem, and thus: no us, no problem!  's one way, at least... =]

Really it's pretty damn hard to get off welfare.  We've set ourselves
up to fail, actually.  Need a more holistic approach, I reckon.

But getting rid of welfare is as silly an idea as everyone being on
it.  It's just not that cut and dry- as hard as we try to rationalize it
so.

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