you don't get it. It's not a matter of anyone being owed anything. It's a matter of pay for Head Start now or pay for remedial college classes later. Guess which one is cheaper.
As for the rest of your rant ... whatever. You're clearly more interested in being punitive than in actually making good policy. We're done here. Dana On 2/11/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > I think it is clear that we are not going to agree. The problem with > > this outlook, which you seem to admire, is that under it no woman will > > ever give birth. > > You're making some real leaps of logic here. > > I'm saying that whether a woman has children is 99.9% of time her > choice. Whether a man has children is 99.9% of the time his choice. > > A couple that has children should *both* be held to account for their choice. > > Certainly a community, and therefore its government, has an interest > in helping both the parents AND the children become productive members > of society. > > BUT > > Those that make bad choices ARE NOT OWED that help. It is charity to > them from others and they should understand that they are getting > charity and, once on their feet, pay it forward. > > Now, if you want to spin that negatively you could restate it as: > > Gruss doesn't owe a poor single mom a damn thing. She choose her sex > partner, she chose to have sex unprotected. She chose to take that > risk when she wasn't able to cope with the worst case scenario: she > has a kid and the father runs away. > > Further, that woman has the option of adoption and, grimly, abortion. > > So, like it or not, a woman has many choices open to her such that she > not get into a position of being a single unwed Mom with an > unsupporting father. And should she find herself in that position she > has options, albeit unpleasant, to get out of that position. > > And this gets back to the government providing an equal playing field. > As long as 2 women both have the opportunity to NOT get pregnant, go > to college, find a job, etc. The one who makes those choices and > sacrifices should be *forced* to pay for the one that didn't. > > That's what charity is for. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:227742 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
