I forgot one important point with that. All of these women, at one
point, supported Bill Clinton as Governor etc. They all volunteered to
work on his campaigns because they believed in him so much. Therefore,
I don't think that their stories are politically motivated.
Michael Corrigan
Programmer
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----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Corrigan
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
Now there is a point that we can definitely agree on. I don't for a
second question the need for an investigation, but the extent to which
it began, not what it became, leaves serious questions about the
integrity of the investigation. If I remember correctly, it was
thrown
out early on but kept getting resurrected in other courts, then kicked
back to other courts etc. The funding issue that Larry discussed
earlier brings serious questions, in my mind, as to the genuineness of
her insistence to keep pushing forward, even though a generous offer
was
put on the table. $700K is a lot of money. She insisted that her
'fight' was noble and that it was sincere. I felt otherwise. She
became a political pawn of far right elements of the Republican party
and of the Conservative movement. Did Clinton make a pass? I'm sure
he did. Was there evidence to support it. From what I know of it,
no.
That's not unique to this case in particular, but these types of cases
as a whole. With that said, I have to wonder about him. Too many
women
(3 come to mind, but there may be more) have come forward with similar
stories. I think that Jones was the only one to file suit. I know
it's
circumstantial and would never hold up in court, but common sense
tells
me that that's too many coincidences to not mean something. That
there's more to this than meets the eye.
Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions
1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
Lombard, IL 60148
630-627-5055 ext.-136
630/627-5255 Fax
----- Original Message -----
From: BethF
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
Of course it should have been investigated. I think it should have
been
investigated fairly, which i am unsure it was.
--Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
Anchorage, Alaska
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> Is it your contention that it should not have been investigated?
>
> Michael Corrigan
> Programmer
> Endora Digital Solutions
> 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> Lombard, IL 60148
> 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> 630/627-5255 Fax
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Lyons
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:46 PM
> Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House -
Bush-style
>
>
> A friend of mine is on several right wing oriented mailing
lists.
> Since
> Paula Jones was in the news he's received several mailings
requesting
> donations to her fund. And this is despite the fact that she's
> received a
> lot of other material support from several conservative groups.
Simply
> sleazy.
>
> larry
>
> --
> Larry C. Lyons
> ColdFusion/Web Developer
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> http://www.pacel.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> --
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:44 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House -
Bush-style
> >
> >
> > To paraphrase the sentiment of many here about Clinton, she's
> > only human.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:37 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House -
Bush-style
> > >
> > >
> > > And not so proud as to try and exploit the issue.
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > > --
> > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > EBStor.com
> > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > tel: (703) 393-7930
> > > fax: (703) 393-2659
> > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com
> > > http://www.pacel.com
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > --
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:21 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House -
> Bush-style
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually Beth, I think Michael's comment was about Paula
> > > > Jones, not Monica.
> > > >
> > > > Paula was not proud to have been harrassed by then Gov
> > > > Clinton, she was
> > > > quite hurt by it. She never had a cum stain from him, let
> > > > alone keep one.
> > > >
> > > > Russel
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:16 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House -
> > Bush-style
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, from my point of view, I think that was
propaganda
> > > > > because all the
> > > > > evidence points to a consensual relationship. She kept
his
> > > > cum stains
> > > > > because she was proud of having the relationship with
him.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
> > > > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
> > > > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
> > > > > Anchorage, Alaska
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:07 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House -
> > Bush-style
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Don't forget why he was being investigated. A woman
> > > > accused him of
> > > > > > sexual harassment. The very nature of the alleged
crime
> > > > was sexual in
> > > > > > nature so the questions in the investigation had to
> > > > revolve around his
> > > > > > sexual activity (duh). The apologists for Clinton
always
> > > > spin it to
> > > > > > make it sound that he was being investigated for
messing
> > > > around with
> > > > > > Monica and that it was two consenting adults.
According
> > > > to Paula Jones,
> > > > > > she did not consent when Clinton put the moves on her.
> > > > That's where it
> > > > > > all began. He lied in the beginning and when they
> > conducted their
> > > > > > investigation found discrepancies in his testimony.
Now
> > > > they had to go
> > > > > > back a revisit the issue and figure out who's telling
the
> > > > truth, and on
> > > > > > and on it went. It was not about sex, it was about a
> > > > crime that was
> > > > > > allegedly committed by one person on another. You may
> > > > not believe Paula
> > > > > > Jones, but I doubt one person on this list would
disagree
> > > > that it should
> > > > > > not have been investigated. The investigation
regarding
> > > > that case kept
> > > > > > ballooning because he kept lying and getting caught in
> > > > the process.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW: Not directed at you Marcus. Your e-mail just
> > > > happened to be the one
> > > > > > I responded to. This was a general response to those
who
> > > > maintain that
> > > > > > it was sex between two consenting adults when it
wasn't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael Corrigan
> > > > > > Programmer
> > > > > > Endora Digital Solutions
> > > > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> > > > > > Lombard, IL 60148
> > > > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> > > > > > 630/627-5255 Fax
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Marcus
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:46 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White
House
-
> > > > Bush-style
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If its a law thats antiquated and not enforced,
then
> > > > yes it does.
> > > > > > > Have you
> > > > > > > seen that list of ridiculous laws that circulates
the
> > > > internet? If
> > > > > > I got
> > > > > > > arrested for one of those laws then most
certainly,
I
> > > > would say I
> > > > > > had been
> > > > > > > wronged.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Certainly... But those are laws like don't eat an
ice
> > > > cream by the
> > > > > > lake.
> > > > > > Don't wear shorts on Sundays. Laws which make little
or
> > > > no sense at
> > > > > > all, and
> > > > > > would fall apart in any court in the land (although
why
> > > > we haven't
> > > > > > gotten
> > > > > > them off the books is beyond me).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mr. Clinton's sexual escapades, while by no means a
> > > > high crime, were
> > > > > > in fact
> > > > > > illegal, but that's beside my point. If he had
> > stated that his
> > > > > > personal life
> > > > > > was his own, and he would only answer questions
> > > > pertaining to his job
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > president, I would have still disliked him, but I
would
> > > > have respected
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > privacy of what he did and left it to his family and
> > > > him to sort out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, when he 'LIED' to investigators, and 'LIED'
> > > > under oath, he
> > > > > > changed
> > > > > > everything! Like him, if I was caught in an
adulterous
> > > > relationship,
> > > > > > chances
> > > > > > are no criminal charges would be filed against me,
and
> > > > the matter
> > > > > > would be
> > > > > > between my wife and I. But if I lie under oath, and
> > > > they find out that
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > did... I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that I go
> > > > behind bars...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also feel that while we are all human, the
president
> > > > needs to be
> > > > > > held to a
> > > > > > higher standard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marcus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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