Clinton left wing? ROFLMAO! maybe in a dittohead's dream, but not in
reality.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> 
> 
> That's great, but you didn't answer my question. Does the 
> standard that 
> you applied to Jones and the right wingers apply to Clinton 
> and the left 
> wingers?  Was it sleazy for Clinton and his supporters like Barbra 
> Streisand and Alec Baldwin to solicit donations to his legal defense 
> too?
> 
> Michael Corrigan
> Programmer
> Endora Digital Solutions
> 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> Lombard, IL 60148
> 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> 630/627-5255 Fax
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Larry Lyons 
>   To: CF-Community 
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:07 PM
>   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> 
> 
>   I also did not mention all the other anti-Clinton funds 
> that were set 
> up. 
> 
>   The whole issue was sleazy. End of story.
> 
>   --
>   Larry C. Lyons
>   ColdFusion/Web Developer
>   Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>   EBStor.com
>   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>   tel:   (703) 393-7930
>   fax:   (703) 393-2659
>   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>          http://www.pacel.com
>   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>   --
> 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:58 PM
>   > To: CF-Community
>   > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
>   > 
>   > 
>   > What's your take on the Clinton Defense fund where they actively 
>   > solicited contributions to his legal defense?  Does the standard 
> that 
>   > you applied to Jones and the right wingers apply to Clinton 
>   > and the left 
>   > wingers?
>   > 
>   > Michael Corrigan
>   > Programmer
>   > Endora Digital Solutions
>   > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
>   > Lombard, IL 60148
>   > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
>   > 630/627-5255 Fax
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Larry Lyons 
>   >   To: CF-Community 
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:46 PM
>   >   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> Bush-style
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   A friend of mine is on several right wing oriented 
> mailing lists. 
>   > Since
>   >   Paula Jones was in the news he's received several mailings 
>   > requesting
>   >   donations to her fund. And this is despite the fact that she's 
>   > received a
>   >   lot of other material support from several conservative 
>   > groups. Simply
>   >   sleazy.
>   > 
>   >   larry
>   > 
>   >   --
>   >   Larry C. Lyons
>   >   ColdFusion/Web Developer
>   >   Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>   >   EBStor.com
>   >   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>   >   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>   >   tel:   (703) 393-7930
>   >   fax:   (703) 393-2659
>   >   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>   >          http://www.pacel.com
>   >   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>   >   --
>   > 
>   >   > -----Original Message-----
>   >   > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   >   > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:44 PM
>   >   > To: CF-Community
>   >   > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> Bush-style
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   > To paraphrase the sentiment of many here about Clinton, she's 
>   >   > only human.
>   >   > 
>   >   > > -----Original Message-----
>   >   > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   >   > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:37 PM
>   >   > > To: CF-Community
>   >   > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
>   > Bush-style
>   >   > > 
>   >   > > 
>   >   > > And not so proud as to try and exploit the issue. 
>   >   > > 
>   >   > > larry
>   >   > > 
>   >   > > --
>   >   > > Larry C. Lyons
>   >   > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
>   >   > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>   >   > > EBStor.com
>   >   > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>   >   > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>   >   > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
>   >   > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
>   >   > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>   >   > >        http://www.pacel.com
>   >   > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >   > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>   >   > > --
>   >   > > 
>   >   > > > -----Original Message-----
>   >   > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   >   > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:21 PM
>   >   > > > To: CF-Community
>   >   > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
>   > Bush-style
>   >   > > > 
>   >   > > > 
>   >   > > > Actually Beth, I think Michael's comment was about Paula 
>   >   > > > Jones, not Monica.
>   >   > > > 
>   >   > > > Paula was not proud to have been harrassed by then Gov 
>   >   > > > Clinton, she was
>   >   > > > quite hurt by it.  She never had a cum stain from 
> him, let 
>   >   > > > alone keep one.
>   >   > > > 
>   >   > > > Russel
>   >   > > > 
>   >   > > > > -----Original Message-----
>   >   > > > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:16 PM
>   >   > > > > To: CF-Community
>   >   > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - 
>   >   > Bush-style
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > Actually, from my point of view, I think that was 
> propaganda
>   >   > > > > because all the
>   >   > > > > evidence points to a consensual relationship.  She kept 
> his 
>   >   > > > cum stains
>   >   > > > > because she was proud of having the 
> relationship with him.
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
>   >   > > > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
>   >   > > > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
>   >   > > > > Anchorage, Alaska
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   >   > > > > From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   >   > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:07 AM
>   >   > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - 
>   >   > Bush-style
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > > Don't forget why he was being investigated.  A woman 
>   >   > > > accused him of
>   >   > > > > > sexual harassment.  The very nature of the 
> alleged crime 
> 
>   >   > > > was sexual in
>   >   > > > > > nature so the questions in the investigation had to 
>   >   > > > revolve around his
>   >   > > > > > sexual activity (duh).  The apologists for Clinton 
> always 
>   >   > > > spin it to
>   >   > > > > > make it sound that he was being investigated 
> for messing 
> 
>   >   > > > around with
>   >   > > > > > Monica and that it was two consenting adults. 
>  According 
> 
>   >   > > > to Paula Jones,
>   >   > > > > > she did not consent when Clinton put the 
> moves on her.  
>   >   > > > That's where it
>   >   > > > > > all began.  He lied in the beginning and when they 
>   >   > conducted their
>   >   > > > > > investigation found discrepancies in his 
> testimony.  Now 
> 
>   >   > > > they had to go
>   >   > > > > > back a revisit the issue and figure out who's telling 
> the 
>   >   > > > truth, and on
>   >   > > > > > and on it went.  It was not about sex, it was about a 
>   >   > > > crime that was
>   >   > > > > > allegedly committed by one person on another. 
>  You may 
>   >   > > > not believe Paula
>   >   > > > > > Jones, but I doubt one person on this list would 
> disagree 
>   >   > > > that it should
>   >   > > > > > not have been investigated.  The 
> investigation regarding 
> 
>   >   > > > that case kept
>   >   > > > > > ballooning because he kept lying and getting 
> caught in 
>   >   > > > the process.
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > > BTW: Not directed at you Marcus. Your e-mail just 
>   >   > > > happened to be the one
>   >   > > > > > I responded to.  This was a general response to those 
> who 
>   >   > > > maintain that
>   >   > > > > > it was sex between two consenting adults when 
> it wasn't.
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > > Michael Corrigan
>   >   > > > > > Programmer
>   >   > > > > > Endora Digital Solutions
>   >   > > > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
>   >   > > > > > Lombard, IL 60148
>   >   > > > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
>   >   > > > > > 630/627-5255 Fax
>   >   > > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   > > > > >   From: Marcus
>   >   > > > > >   To: CF-Community
>   >   > > > > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:46 PM
>   >   > > > > >   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the 
> White House 
> - 
>   >   > > > Bush-style
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >   > If its a law thats antiquated and not 
> enforced, then 
> 
>   >   > > > yes it does.
>   >   > > > > >   >  Have you
>   >   > > > > >   > seen that list of ridiculous laws that circulates 
> the 
>   >   > > > internet?  If
>   >   > > > > > I got
>   >   > > > > >   > arrested for one of those laws then most 
> certainly, 
> I 
>   >   > > > would say I
>   >   > > > > > had been
>   >   > > > > >   > wronged.
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >   Certainly... But those are laws like don't 
> eat an ice 
>   >   > > > cream by the
>   >   > > > > > lake.
>   >   > > > > >   Don't wear shorts on Sundays. Laws which 
> make little 
> or 
>   >   > > > no sense at
>   >   > > > > > all, and
>   >   > > > > >   would fall apart in any court in the land (although 
> why 
>   >   > > > we haven't
>   >   > > > > > gotten
>   >   > > > > >   them off the books is beyond me).
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >   Mr. Clinton's sexual escapades, while by no means a 
>   >   > > > high crime, were
>   >   > > > > > in fact
>   >   > > > > >   illegal, but that's beside my point. If he had 
>   >   > stated that his
>   >   > > > > > personal life
>   >   > > > > >   was his own, and he would only answer questions 
>   >   > > > pertaining to his job
>   >   > > > > > as
>   >   > > > > >   president, I would have still disliked him, but I 
> would 
>   >   > > > have respected
>   >   > > > > > the
>   >   > > > > >   privacy of what he did and left it to his 
> family and 
>   >   > > > him to sort out.
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >   However, when he 'LIED' to investigators, 
> and 'LIED' 
>   >   > > > under oath, he
>   >   > > > > > changed
>   >   > > > > >   everything! Like him, if I was caught in an 
> adulterous 
> 
>   >   > > > relationship,
>   >   > > > > > chances
>   >   > > > > >   are no criminal charges would be filed 
> against me, and 
> 
>   >   > > > the matter
>   >   > > > > > would be
>   >   > > > > >   between my wife and I. But if I lie under oath, and 
>   >   > > > they find out that
>   >   > > > > > I
>   >   > > > > >   did... I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that I go 
>   >   > > > behind bars...
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >   I also feel that while we are all human, 
> the president 
> 
>   >   > > > needs to be
>   >   > > > > > held to a
>   >   > > > > >   higher standard.
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >   Marcus
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > >
>   >   > > > > 
>   >   > > > 
>   >   > > 
>   >   > 
>   >   
>   > 
>   
> 
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