Out of sheer curiosity, what do you think of Colin Powell's political views? He is imo the only shoe-in for president in the political arean right now, but his politics are smack dab right in the middle, perhaps even a bit north of the middle even.
Call me crazy, but I'd love to see a Colin Powell / Jesse Ventura ticket :) jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style > He's left of GW Bush and GW is about as liberal as I like my Republicans. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:24 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style > > > > > > Clinton left wing? ROFLMAO! maybe in a dittohead's dream, but not in > > reality. > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:12 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style > > > > > > > > > That's great, but you didn't answer my question. Does the > > > standard that > > > you applied to Jones and the right wingers apply to Clinton > > > and the left > > > wingers? Was it sleazy for Clinton and his supporters like Barbra > > > Streisand and Alec Baldwin to solicit donations to his legal defense > > > too? > > > > > > Michael Corrigan > > > Programmer > > > Endora Digital Solutions > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > > > Lombard, IL 60148 > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > > > 630/627-5255 Fax > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Larry Lyons > > > To: CF-Community > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:07 PM > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style > > > > > > > > > I also did not mention all the other anti-Clinton funds > > > that were set > > > up. > > > > > > The whole issue was sleazy. End of story. > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:58 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your take on the Clinton Defense fund where they actively > > > > solicited contributions to his legal defense? Does the standard > > > that > > > > you applied to Jones and the right wingers apply to Clinton > > > > and the left > > > > wingers? > > > > > > > > Michael Corrigan > > > > Programmer > > > > Endora Digital Solutions > > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > > > > Lombard, IL 60148 > > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > > > > 630/627-5255 Fax > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Larry Lyons > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:46 PM > > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - > > > Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > A friend of mine is on several right wing oriented > > > mailing lists. > > > > Since > > > > Paula Jones was in the news he's received several mailings > > > > requesting > > > > donations to her fund. And this is despite the fact that she's > > > > received a > > > > lot of other material support from several conservative > > > > groups. Simply > > > > sleazy. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > > EBStor.com > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:44 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - > > > Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To paraphrase the sentiment of many here about Clinton, she's > > > > > only human. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:37 PM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - > > > > Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And not so proud as to try and exploit the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:21 PM > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - > > > > Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually Beth, I think Michael's comment was about Paula > > > > > > > Jones, not Monica. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paula was not proud to have been harrassed by then Gov > > > > > > > Clinton, she was > > > > > > > quite hurt by it. She never had a cum stain from > > > him, let > > > > > > > alone keep one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Russel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:16 PM > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - > > > > > Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, from my point of view, I think that was > > > propaganda > > > > > > > > because all the > > > > > > > > evidence points to a consensual relationship. She kept > > > his > > > > > > > cum stains > > > > > > > > because she was proud of having the > > > relationship with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop > > > > > > > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike > > > > > > > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) > > > > > > > > Anchorage, Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:07 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - > > > > > Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't forget why he was being investigated. A woman > > > > > > > accused him of > > > > > > > > > sexual harassment. The very nature of the > > > alleged crime > > > > > > > > > > was sexual in > > > > > > > > > nature so the questions in the investigation had to > > > > > > > revolve around his > > > > > > > > > sexual activity (duh). The apologists for Clinton > > > always > > > > > > > spin it to > > > > > > > > > make it sound that he was being investigated > > > for messing > > > > > > > > > > around with > > > > > > > > > Monica and that it was two consenting adults. > > > According > > > > > > > > > > to Paula Jones, > > > > > > > > > she did not consent when Clinton put the > > > moves on her. > > > > > > > That's where it > > > > > > > > > all began. He lied in the beginning and when they > > > > > conducted their > > > > > > > > > investigation found discrepancies in his > > > testimony. Now > > > > > > > > > > they had to go > > > > > > > > > back a revisit the issue and figure out who's telling > > > the > > > > > > > truth, and on > > > > > > > > > and on it went. It was not about sex, it was about a > > > > > > > crime that was > > > > > > > > > allegedly committed by one person on another. > > > You may > > > > > > > not believe Paula > > > > > > > > > Jones, but I doubt one person on this list would > > > disagree > > > > > > > that it should > > > > > > > > > not have been investigated. The > > > investigation regarding > > > > > > > > > > that case kept > > > > > > > > > ballooning because he kept lying and getting > > > caught in > > > > > > > the process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW: Not directed at you Marcus. Your e-mail just > > > > > > > happened to be the one > > > > > > > > > I responded to. This was a general response to those > > > who > > > > > > > maintain that > > > > > > > > > it was sex between two consenting adults when > > > it wasn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Corrigan > > > > > > > > > Programmer > > > > > > > > > Endora Digital Solutions > > > > > > > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > > > > > > > > > Lombard, IL 60148 > > > > > > > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > > > > > > > > > 630/627-5255 Fax > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: Marcus > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:46 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the > > > White House > > > - > > > > > > > Bush-style > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its a law thats antiquated and not > > > enforced, then > > > > > > > > > > yes it does. > > > > > > > > > > Have you > > > > > > > > > > seen that list of ridiculous laws that circulates > > > the > > > > > > > internet? If > > > > > > > > > I got > > > > > > > > > > arrested for one of those laws then most > > > certainly, > > > I > > > > > > > would say I > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > wronged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly... But those are laws like don't > > > eat an ice > > > > > > > cream by the > > > > > > > > > lake. > > > > > > > > > Don't wear shorts on Sundays. Laws which > > > make little > > > or > > > > > > > no sense at > > > > > > > > > all, and > > > > > > > > > would fall apart in any court in the land (although > > > why > > > > > > > we haven't > > > > > > > > > gotten > > > > > > > > > them off the books is beyond me). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Clinton's sexual escapades, while by no means a > > > > > > > high crime, were > > > > > > > > > in fact > > > > > > > > > illegal, but that's beside my point. If he had > > > > > stated that his > > > > > > > > > personal life > > > > > > > > > was his own, and he would only answer questions > > > > > > > pertaining to his job > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > president, I would have still disliked him, but I > > > would > > > > > > > have respected > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > privacy of what he did and left it to his > > > family and > > > > > > > him to sort out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when he 'LIED' to investigators, > > > and 'LIED' > > > > > > > under oath, he > > > > > > > > > changed > > > > > > > > > everything! Like him, if I was caught in an > > > adulterous > > > > > > > > > > relationship, > > > > > > > > > chances > > > > > > > > > are no criminal charges would be filed > > > against me, and > > > > > > > > > > the matter > > > > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > between my wife and I. But if I lie under oath, and > > > > > > > they find out that > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > did... I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that I go > > > > > > > behind bars... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also feel that while we are all human, > > > the president > > > > > > > > > > needs to be > > > > > > > > > held to a > > > > > > > > > higher standard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
