He's left of GW Bush and GW is about as liberal as I like my Republicans.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:24 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> 
> 
> Clinton left wing? ROFLMAO! maybe in a dittohead's dream, but not in
> reality.
> 
> larry
> 
> --
> Larry C. Lyons
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> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:12 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> > 
> > 
> > That's great, but you didn't answer my question. Does the 
> > standard that 
> > you applied to Jones and the right wingers apply to Clinton 
> > and the left 
> > wingers?  Was it sleazy for Clinton and his supporters like Barbra 
> > Streisand and Alec Baldwin to solicit donations to his legal defense 
> > too?
> > 
> > Michael Corrigan
> > Programmer
> > Endora Digital Solutions
> > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> > Lombard, IL 60148
> > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> > 630/627-5255 Fax
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Larry Lyons 
> >   To: CF-Community 
> >   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:07 PM
> >   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> > 
> > 
> >   I also did not mention all the other anti-Clinton funds 
> > that were set 
> > up. 
> > 
> >   The whole issue was sleazy. End of story.
> > 
> >   --
> >   Larry C. Lyons
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> >   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> >   --
> > 
> >   > -----Original Message-----
> >   > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >   > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:58 PM
> >   > To: CF-Community
> >   > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > What's your take on the Clinton Defense fund where they actively 
> >   > solicited contributions to his legal defense?  Does the standard 
> > that 
> >   > you applied to Jones and the right wingers apply to Clinton 
> >   > and the left 
> >   > wingers?
> >   > 
> >   > Michael Corrigan
> >   > Programmer
> >   > Endora Digital Solutions
> >   > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> >   > Lombard, IL 60148
> >   > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> >   > 630/627-5255 Fax
> >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   >   From: Larry Lyons 
> >   >   To: CF-Community 
> >   >   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:46 PM
> >   >   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> > Bush-style
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   >   A friend of mine is on several right wing oriented 
> > mailing lists. 
> >   > Since
> >   >   Paula Jones was in the news he's received several mailings 
> >   > requesting
> >   >   donations to her fund. And this is despite the fact that she's 
> >   > received a
> >   >   lot of other material support from several conservative 
> >   > groups. Simply
> >   >   sleazy.
> >   > 
> >   >   larry
> >   > 
> >   >   --
> >   >   Larry C. Lyons
> >   >   ColdFusion/Web Developer
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> >   >   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> >   >   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> >   >   tel:   (703) 393-7930
> >   >   fax:   (703) 393-2659
> >   >   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> >   >          http://www.pacel.com
> >   >   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   >   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> >   >   --
> >   > 
> >   >   > -----Original Message-----
> >   >   > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >   >   > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:44 PM
> >   >   > To: CF-Community
> >   >   > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> > Bush-style
> >   >   > 
> >   >   > 
> >   >   > To paraphrase the sentiment of many here about Clinton, she's 
> >   >   > only human.
> >   >   > 
> >   >   > > -----Original Message-----
> >   >   > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >   >   > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:37 PM
> >   >   > > To: CF-Community
> >   >   > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> >   > Bush-style
> >   >   > > 
> >   >   > > 
> >   >   > > And not so proud as to try and exploit the issue. 
> >   >   > > 
> >   >   > > larry
> >   >   > > 
> >   >   > > --
> >   >   > > Larry C. Lyons
> >   >   > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> >   >   > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> >   >   > > EBStor.com
> >   >   > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> >   >   > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> >   >   > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> >   >   > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> >   >   > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> >   >   > >        http://www.pacel.com
> >   >   > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   >   > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> >   >   > > --
> >   >   > > 
> >   >   > > > -----Original Message-----
> >   >   > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >   >   > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:21 PM
> >   >   > > > To: CF-Community
> >   >   > > > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> >   > Bush-style
> >   >   > > > 
> >   >   > > > 
> >   >   > > > Actually Beth, I think Michael's comment was about Paula 
> >   >   > > > Jones, not Monica.
> >   >   > > > 
> >   >   > > > Paula was not proud to have been harrassed by then Gov 
> >   >   > > > Clinton, she was
> >   >   > > > quite hurt by it.  She never had a cum stain from 
> > him, let 
> >   >   > > > alone keep one.
> >   >   > > > 
> >   >   > > > Russel
> >   >   > > > 
> >   >   > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >   >   > > > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >   >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:16 PM
> >   >   > > > > To: CF-Community
> >   >   > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> >   >   > Bush-style
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > > Actually, from my point of view, I think that was 
> > propaganda
> >   >   > > > > because all the
> >   >   > > > > evidence points to a consensual relationship.  She kept 
> > his 
> >   >   > > > cum stains
> >   >   > > > > because she was proud of having the 
> > relationship with him.
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
> >   >   > > > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
> >   >   > > > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
> >   >   > > > > Anchorage, Alaska
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   >   > > > > From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   >   > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:07 AM
> >   >   > > > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> >   >   > Bush-style
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > >
> >   >   > > > > > Don't forget why he was being investigated.  A woman 
> >   >   > > > accused him of
> >   >   > > > > > sexual harassment.  The very nature of the 
> > alleged crime 
> > 
> >   >   > > > was sexual in
> >   >   > > > > > nature so the questions in the investigation had to 
> >   >   > > > revolve around his
> >   >   > > > > > sexual activity (duh).  The apologists for Clinton 
> > always 
> >   >   > > > spin it to
> >   >   > > > > > make it sound that he was being investigated 
> > for messing 
> > 
> >   >   > > > around with
> >   >   > > > > > Monica and that it was two consenting adults. 
> >  According 
> > 
> >   >   > > > to Paula Jones,
> >   >   > > > > > she did not consent when Clinton put the 
> > moves on her.  
> >   >   > > > That's where it
> >   >   > > > > > all began.  He lied in the beginning and when they 
> >   >   > conducted their
> >   >   > > > > > investigation found discrepancies in his 
> > testimony.  Now 
> > 
> >   >   > > > they had to go
> >   >   > > > > > back a revisit the issue and figure out who's telling 
> > the 
> >   >   > > > truth, and on
> >   >   > > > > > and on it went.  It was not about sex, it was about a 
> >   >   > > > crime that was
> >   >   > > > > > allegedly committed by one person on another. 
> >  You may 
> >   >   > > > not believe Paula
> >   >   > > > > > Jones, but I doubt one person on this list would 
> > disagree 
> >   >   > > > that it should
> >   >   > > > > > not have been investigated.  The 
> > investigation regarding 
> > 
> >   >   > > > that case kept
> >   >   > > > > > ballooning because he kept lying and getting 
> > caught in 
> >   >   > > > the process.
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > > BTW: Not directed at you Marcus. Your e-mail just 
> >   >   > > > happened to be the one
> >   >   > > > > > I responded to.  This was a general response to those 
> > who 
> >   >   > > > maintain that
> >   >   > > > > > it was sex between two consenting adults when 
> > it wasn't.
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > > Michael Corrigan
> >   >   > > > > > Programmer
> >   >   > > > > > Endora Digital Solutions
> >   >   > > > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> >   >   > > > > > Lombard, IL 60148
> >   >   > > > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> >   >   > > > > > 630/627-5255 Fax
> >   >   > > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   >   > > > > >   From: Marcus
> >   >   > > > > >   To: CF-Community
> >   >   > > > > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:46 PM
> >   >   > > > > >   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the 
> > White House 
> > - 
> >   >   > > > Bush-style
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >   > If its a law thats antiquated and not 
> > enforced, then 
> > 
> >   >   > > > yes it does.
> >   >   > > > > >   >  Have you
> >   >   > > > > >   > seen that list of ridiculous laws that circulates 
> > the 
> >   >   > > > internet?  If
> >   >   > > > > > I got
> >   >   > > > > >   > arrested for one of those laws then most 
> > certainly, 
> > I 
> >   >   > > > would say I
> >   >   > > > > > had been
> >   >   > > > > >   > wronged.
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >   Certainly... But those are laws like don't 
> > eat an ice 
> >   >   > > > cream by the
> >   >   > > > > > lake.
> >   >   > > > > >   Don't wear shorts on Sundays. Laws which 
> > make little 
> > or 
> >   >   > > > no sense at
> >   >   > > > > > all, and
> >   >   > > > > >   would fall apart in any court in the land (although 
> > why 
> >   >   > > > we haven't
> >   >   > > > > > gotten
> >   >   > > > > >   them off the books is beyond me).
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >   Mr. Clinton's sexual escapades, while by no means a 
> >   >   > > > high crime, were
> >   >   > > > > > in fact
> >   >   > > > > >   illegal, but that's beside my point. If he had 
> >   >   > stated that his
> >   >   > > > > > personal life
> >   >   > > > > >   was his own, and he would only answer questions 
> >   >   > > > pertaining to his job
> >   >   > > > > > as
> >   >   > > > > >   president, I would have still disliked him, but I 
> > would 
> >   >   > > > have respected
> >   >   > > > > > the
> >   >   > > > > >   privacy of what he did and left it to his 
> > family and 
> >   >   > > > him to sort out.
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >   However, when he 'LIED' to investigators, 
> > and 'LIED' 
> >   >   > > > under oath, he
> >   >   > > > > > changed
> >   >   > > > > >   everything! Like him, if I was caught in an 
> > adulterous 
> > 
> >   >   > > > relationship,
> >   >   > > > > > chances
> >   >   > > > > >   are no criminal charges would be filed 
> > against me, and 
> > 
> >   >   > > > the matter
> >   >   > > > > > would be
> >   >   > > > > >   between my wife and I. But if I lie under oath, and 
> >   >   > > > they find out that
> >   >   > > > > > I
> >   >   > > > > >   did... I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that I go 
> >   >   > > > behind bars...
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >   I also feel that while we are all human, 
> > the president 
> > 
> >   >   > > > needs to be
> >   >   > > > > > held to a
> >   >   > > > > >   higher standard.
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >   Marcus
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > >
> >   >   > > > > 
> >   >   > > > 
> >   >   > > 
> >   >   > 
> >   >   
> >   > 
> >   
> > 
> 
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