Any comparison is fraught with pitfalls, of course. We know much more about
Nessy than we know about God, for example.  We can feel much safer in saying
Nessy doesn't exist than in saying God doesn't exist because Nessy is still
limited by the laws of nature. Since God wrote the laws of nature, he's not
bound them (or even exists within them).

So, yes, if you get quite literal about it, the comparison fails. But as a
matter of philosophy, which is what the game is about, it works.


H.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 2:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Battleground God


I agree from a pure logical point of view, but I took the question
literally. I think there has enough scientific studies that prove that
the monster doesn't exist. Besides we can go empty the lake if we had
too. We can't however, keep digging till we reach Hell or keep flying
till we reach Heaven. That's where I felt the comparison failed.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think it's a valid comparison.
>
> The Loch Ness monster seems to be a creature of myth. Perfectly rational
> people believe they have seen Nessy, but there is little if any empirical
> evidence to support the existence of the Nessy. It is equally hard to
prove
> that God does not exist as it is to prove that Nessy does not exist.
>
> As I suggested earlier, the flaw of the game is that it presupposes that
> faith is not rational. Pure faith can be a rational response to ones
> environment. You need not be crazy or stupid to have faith. And since all
> things that cannot be proven one way another (such as the existence or
lack
> of existence of God or Nessy) are matters of faith, to say that faith is
> irrational is to say that all people are irrational, because all people,
at
> the end of the day, base their ultimate beliefs about God on faith. If all
> people are irrational, than the statements of none can be trusted. But
since
> we can observe that some people are rational, and since all people have
> faith, and since in rational people, their faith is founded on some sort
of
> reasonable response to experience, then we must conclude that faith is
> rational.
>
> It is the proclamation of a lack of faith that is irrational because the
> person who proclaims a lack of faith is denying all evidence to the
contrary
> that he cannot disprove the existence of God.
>
> H.
>
>
>


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