Beth -- I'll answer the question as best I can in limited time.

First, would you agree that the universe had a beginning? We all learned
about the Big Bang, right?  I don't think this theory has ever been
reasonably contradicted. What caused the Big Bang? What was the first cause
if not a creator?

Certainly, any being capable of creating the universe from nothing must be
an exceptionally powerful being. What are we to call this being except God?

In looking for information on the probability (of course, I can never
remember the exact numbers) that the universe would exist, that earth would
exist, that humans would exist, I came across this fascinating Muslim site:

http://www.creationofuniverse.com/pages/equilibrium03.htm

For more along the same train of thought, go to the home page.

For me, when I look at the complexity of my hand, I think, "How can this be
merely the result of random chance?"

If you accept that there is no creator, then you must accept that all of the
universe, and all that is in it, including your hand, is purely a matter of
random chance. Without a creator, an outside agent guiding things, then how
did it happen that my hand can type these words or finger a chord on a
guitar or caress my wife?

Or what is the probability that by random chance, the earth would rotate at
just the right speed, at just the right distance from the sun, at just the
right elliptical shape to make our atmosphere even possible?

I mean at every juncture you turn in science, you are confronted by highly
improbable events that atheists assign to random chance. I mean, I'm sorry,
but I'm not willing to use just blind faith to say there is no God. It is
just too unlikely.

The more we learn about the complexity of the universe, the more we confirm
that there must be a creator.

H.




-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:18 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Battleground God


>
> I have also said that I believe there is evidence pointing toward the
> existence of God, but that you cannot arrive at the final conclusion
without
> some degree of faith (either for or against).

This is the statement I am talking about - I guess I would like to be able
to discuss what you would consider evidence that there is a God.  But if you
dont' want to thats fine  - I am just not sure I see any evidence that there
is a God, per say.



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