No they did not. I just threw that in there. I see your point but it does not change what I believe, which is why I am not going to go round and round on this. That is what is so nice. We can believe what we want. So what if someone disagrees with that. That is what makes this and other free nations so great, that we can do this and not be afraid. Like others on this list said, I am not going to say anything on this list that I would not say in person. I will on occasion state my views, opinions, beliefs, etc... As will everyone else. I say what I want to say. If I feel I have to defend what I say I will, otherwise I just leave it at that. I do respect what you and others have to say. We are all very passionate about what we believe and that is great. I hope that no matter what happens in this great nation of ours, we never lose that passion.
Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:48 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Electability and Religion (Yeah, More Atheist Stuff) > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:21 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Electability and Religion (Yeah, More Atheist Stuff) > > Simple as that. I have firm religious believes that I am not going to > give > up just because someone offered their opinion. I'm sorry, but did somebody (anybody) challenge any religious belief in the thread? That was not my intention. (I hope you're not saying that your religious beliefs somehow hinge on the founding fathers agreeing with you.) ;^) For my part my points are: 1) There is formalized, legal discrimination against non-believers in several states. This is the worst kind of discrimination: discrimination against me. 2) The "founding fathers" were not some homogenous group of modern Christians: they ran the same gamut that we see in any large, diverse group of Americans. Some were specifically anti-religious (while perhaps not anti-God), others were devout. Some were apathetic about religion, others passionate. All we can say for certain is that they government they drafted specifically eliminated religion as a foundational or moderating element while ensuring it's free exercise. The idea that America was founded as a "Christian nation" is false. At the same time America was clearly designed to be openly accepting of religion amongst its population. A more compelling argument may be that America is in the process of transitioning to a Christian nation. It's clear that a non-Christian is all-but unelectable to any high office. More and more laws, decisions and controversies are religiously motivated and it's painfully clear that many of our leaders favor Christian groups, ideology and stances. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:243242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
