Actually from the perspective of the military our affairs in the Balkans
were peacekeeping and not wartime or combat operations.  It caused a major
strain in relations between the military and the Clinton administration.
They allowed no combat awards, even though the conditions were met for them.
NATO, and UN service and theater service awards.  The only time the military
fought back was getting the purple heart for guys that got wounded, and
getting the POW medal for some guys that got captured and held hostage.

During those Clinton years my Battalion was the most heavily deployed light
infantry battalion in the Army.  2/505th Parachute Infantry Regiment spent
time in Kosovo, Saudi, Kuwait, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, all over the Balkans.
He kept us busy.

It's funny.  That's his second presidency.  The reason the 82nd Airborne got
picked for so many missions during that time was because he'd already
decimated the 10th Mountain Division with Balkan and Somalia and other
deployments (Sinai and Kuwait and Saudi and Haiti) during his first
presidency.  There rates of suicide and divorce were insane, higher than SF
for a while.

The idea that we were already at war is very true, his administration just
refused to call it what it was.  I was in Sharm el Sheik in Egypt, drank at
the hotel that got blown up there.  Where US service members regularly hung
out.  I was on a peace keeping mission there when the intifada kicked off
again and when the Cole bombing happened.  Admittedly Egypt was a joke,
other than the mine threat.

Go walk through the 82nd's museum and see the helmets and flak jackets torn
with bullet holes and mortar shrapnel.  Peacekeeping, ha.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:48 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
> 
> The first bombing of the World Trade Center.
> 
> As for attacks "on US soil", that's a fairly narrow definition. Why
> exclude
> terrorist attacks where Americans were killed?
> 
> - Khobar Towers
> - USS Cole
> - Embassy bombings in Africa
> - CIA employees shot at Langley
> 
> I'm probably missing a few, but that's quite a list right there.
> 
> As for Gruss' contention that the Clinton years were peaceful, what
> about
> Somalia? What about the Balkans? Even though Clinton chose not to fight
> back
> in a big way against the terrorist threat, there were still several
> years of
> conflict in which US troops were deployed overseas. My brother was in
> Croatia. What that not a legitimate war?
> 
> On 10/5/07, Larry wrote:
> >
> > >Are you sure about the peace part? I seem to recall many attacks on
> the
> > >US (not all were on our soil, but were directed towards Americans).
> I
> > >can detail them for you if you like.
> > >
> 
> 
> 

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